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Get down there on your bike an test it! The Steel Bridge low bikeway connects with that route Northbound. The real treachery is crossing the highway on ramps to get on to N Williams or Weidler.
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While we're at it, let's do something about the pedestrians as well. No one in their right mind would route several converging sidewalks with sidewalks through a multi-lane interchange with 20 ton busses and light rail trains are maneuvering.

They even let wheelchairs and small children whizz about down there like some sort of derby in and out of the cavernlike darkness created by thatunderpass as if visibility wasn't bad enough.
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It's illegal to bike through there? Shit... I had no idea. First few times I rode my bike to work, I just followed people through there. Didn't realize I wasn't supposed to.

Whole area's a bit of a clusterfuck right now.
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I WALK my bike through there, and will continue to do so no matter what bike lane is installed. Buses are so big and I squish so easily.
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Grease stains are oh, so hard to get out of concrete. I've tried everything, too. Ajax, Brillo, a pressure washer. The worst part is the stain is in the shape of a bike rider, usually helmet-less, arms thrown out in front as if that will help. Oh, me, oh, my. Such hard work.
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I'd say maybe 15% of the cyclists that go through the Rose Quarter even know about the under-the-freeway loop to Wheeler.

I've been riding north through that area for years and only discoved it through some focus trial and error.

It's invisible. Why would anyone try going in a direction they can't see?
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Bike/bus conflict is certainly a legitimate concern - not just in the Rose Quarter but on all streets.

But the reasoning here seems to be "we got here first" not "best and highest use."

The Rose Quarter is an important transit crossroads but it is also an important bike crossroads - one of the most important in the city. So "we got here first" doesn't work for me.
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Maybe we should ban bikes on the bus mall, too, once the busses and trains come next year.
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Enceph, I'm with you there. I've known about that route for about a month, and I still haven't taken it. The scramble signal pulls me toward the Rose Quarter, and who am I to resist?
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Suggestion #1
Dig a bike Tunnel under the bus transit center and MAX tracks From NE Wheeler & Interstate Ave., North, past NE Multnomah Street. Benefit: Zero lives lost, reasonably cheap, fast, quick and dirty solution; but thinking way outside the box, thus a bad idea.

Suggestion #2
Widen existing NE Wheeler Street, install a curbed exclusive bike lane, additionally have 4 concrete curb high risers with painted cross walks that bicyclists must yield to so TriMet can load it's people.

Benefit: as long as said law abiding bicyclist stays in special curbed path way, waits for MAX trains, never hits the MAX tracks crossed eyed, and yield to pedestrians loading in said busses due to Portland's cross walk laws, it would save the bicyclists lives. That said, bicyclist don't have that kind of time and definitely don't have that kind of patients.
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Hmmm......

Interesting document, haven't heard a thing about it.

Must be because I don't drive Portland anymore, what a shame.

I see the bus drivers point of course, but obviously they will get nowhere on this issue.
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So that's how you're supposed to get there? Huh. Like others here have said, it's very inconspicuous.

Maybe they should just put up some signs to point us in the right direction. That sounds cheaper than petitions, upcoming plans, added bike lanes, and protests of said bike lanes (to say nothing of Idea Guy's tunnels).
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http://rantingsofatrimetbusdriver.blogspot.com/2008/08/rose-quarter-not-for-bikes-and-buses.html
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This blog here btw really impressed me with their understanding of the planning process employed in the City of Portland by the various "public service" agencies:

http://arbitraryorsubjective.blogspot.com/2008/08/train-broken-look-for-finger.html
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I would suggest that the laws of our friend Darwin rule here. if someone gets hit by the bus, then they probably did not need to provide spawn to the gene pool... the only flaw with that is that all the whiners will be wanting to sue because they were stupid and didnt pay attention to the law that "doesnt apply to them".
my honest suggestion? a _small percentage_ of Portlanders ride bikes every day, how about they start acting like they give a crap about the good of everyone rather than just their own needs... they always claim to be riding a bike to "save the planet"... how about they save the planet from having to clean up the husk of their remains after they get creamed by the bus they should have been smart enough to avoid!
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""I would suggest that the laws of our friend Darwin rule here.a _small percentage_ of Portlanders ride bikes every day, how about they start acting like they give a crap about the good of everyone rather than just their own needs"""

Since this is really the only truly free speech blog in Portland, let me express my sentiments clearly about the post quoted above,

THAT'S A FUCKING GREAT POST!

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Well this joke of a "solution" actually happened... the signs were changed as I went through there at around 5 PM tonight, along with several TV news crews.

There was months of notice about the temporary 3-week MAX shuttle and the summer bus reroutes due to MAX track construction on the Steel Bridge... and this PERMANENT change was practically announced today. Where/when was the opportunity for public comment? Why no open solicitation for said comment on TriMet's website (which I check daily), so everyone could have a say?

I'm a longtime transit rider who does not bike, and to say I'm infuriated by this is an understatement. For as long as I can remember (and as far back as the oldest system map I have indicates), there have always been those stops at those locations at Rose Quarter Transit Center. This new set-up practically destroys the transit center, especially for mobility-challenged people that can't bike, so that a few bikers can joyride through, ignoring motorized traffic, pedestrian traffic, signals, MAX horns, etc. Need to transfer from MAX to a bus (or vice versa) that leaves a minute after the other arrives? You're out of luck now! Not to mention Multnomah St. used to be a throughway for autos, so I bet this is going to make motorists through the area really happy (not!) as well. I should probably add that the original bus stops had large shelters... the new stops are nothing more than a sign in the ground.

To put this in perspective (and turn the tables), let's say that the Springwater Trail could accommodate buses (it can't, but let's briefly imagine a parallel dimension where it does), so bus routes are changed so they're now in what was dedicated bike/ped space. The exact reverse of this has occurred at what was once RQTC.

For people that claim they "share the road," they've sure demanded the entire thing here. I don't want to give anyone any ideas, but when will this stop? Will bikers force buses to stay on SW 3rd and 4th through downtown? Will bikers demand half of the Banfield be shut down so they have a "bike freeway?" Or will TriMet drivers, TriMet riders, and any others that feel this is NOT equitable, demand this change be reversed?

Finally... BikePortland.org seems to be down right now... coincidence?

Thanks for reading!

P.S.–An open "thank you" to a few of the operators I don't know by name (but would probably recognize me) who drove 44 and 74 the last 3 months... thanks for being great, and good luck on your routes in the next sign-up!

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