As far as I know, the point of that beverage is so that the designated driver/recovering alcoholic has something to do with his hands at a party. So, what sort of loser drinks 3 of them?
I don't quite understand your view of your cynicism here. I think the "easy" vote, in terms of the politics, was to vote no. Is it really harder to sit across a table from Randy Leonard and say "I disagree" than to face thousands of angry constituents? Surely public opinion is against this by a strong majority. For those who voted yes, they must really believe it's a good deal because they're going to have to explain it to voters again and again and again and again. I tend to agree with Nick Fish on this issue but I don't think that was a courageous stand by any means. I think it was the easier one.
I'm on my fourteenth O'Douls, and to me this guy kinda seems like a fake Bob Dylan with a Tony Orlando moustache. Except he also has a John Lennon "Hey You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" waltz feel. Though the accordion threatens to make it more of an "Ich Tanze Mit Dir in den Himmel Hinein" waltz feel.
Also, Chrome keeps fucking underlining "moustache" when CLEARLY that is the CORRECT spelling.
"Fish said he wants Leonard's support on homeless shelters, putting restrooms in parks, crafting a responsible budget, and so on."
Actually I fully expect him to side with Fish on things like this. If Fish wants something big that means a council member has to have a pair and admit they know more about something than regular folk that just read press releases from whatever random interest group they signed up for and repeated their talking points. Well, I don't know that I'd trust them.
If Fish was trying to be such an independent voice, why did he have such a shocked looked of horror on his face when Saltzman went against the "duo vote" and voted yes? If Saltzman had voted before Fish, Fish certainly would've voted yes. He only wanted to be on the winning side. Saltzman threw him a curve ball. Fish lost. End of story.
Great job reporting Matt. In a few years, after the crowds don't appear and the Paulsons leave town, the city council and the soccer ditto heads are going to be hearing a well deserved "told you so." Unfortunate, but thanks for trying.
On the radio this afternoon Paulson pegged the chance of this thing actually happening at 80%, something he's been loathe to do in the past.
Supposing that's true, what I want to know is: will the team be called the Timbers? Will they be bumped and upgraded, or does a whole new franchise/history begin?
I mean this seriously. It seems to me as if a simple team promotion would help the chance of survival, rather than picking some new stupid name with no local history or identification... (Don't expect the Timber army to ditch all their cool scarves and chants to follow the Portland "Caffeine" or some such new age garbage). Shit, bring back Timber Jim for a season and give him some MLS money (what's that, like 12K a year?)
It's not so courageous to vote based on a flawed principle--the risk to city services would be minimal at worst. Randy did a fine job pointing out how silly Ted Wheeler's self-righteousness was, given his stated philosophical approval of URAs, as well as most of the actual districts drawn up.
Poor Amanda appeared to have been swayed by a 7 year old report presented by the Blazers VP. That was a bizarre episode...
Keep on gloating, zag. Keep reminding us why soccer fans are assholes. Just remember you're going to need our asses in those seats to make your pet project stadium a success.
@Matthew: If it's a choice between 8 O'Douls and 8 of something else, I'd go with the O'Douls. It's more of an art than a science, and a delicate one, at that.
What planet does our city govt. live on? I thought we had a soccer team? Portlanders are sure weak when it comes to standing up for themselves. The mayor is a sociopath in love with his own celebrity and Portlanders eat it up. You can be assured that who ever gets the construction job has already been in bed wit Randy and Sam. Good thing for them bad for us.
I would like to know where all of you detractors were yesterday. Those of us who actually care put in for days off, rescheduled workload, traded shifts, etc. We were actually there to make our voices heard, you were not.
The team is staying the Timbers. We will move to a more stable league. If we didn't go to MLS, and Vancouver goes to MLS (which is likely), we would be the only remaining USL team on this coast. The closest team would be in Austin, TX. We would be flying great distances to get to every away game. The team couldn't survive under those conditions, and would likely move or fold. Then we wouldn't have any soccer team paying rent for use of PGE, and a major part of local culture would be dead.
Matt, I would suggest that your befuddlement concerning Fish's vote yesterday fails to take into account one significant factor, from his 2004 oh-so-painfully-close loss to Adams for the open commissioner seat (I do realize that you were not here back then):
At the time, Fish was running a TV commercial highlighting Adams's role in the 2001 PGE Park renovation, which had only just imploded to leave the city holding the bag on ~$30 million in debt. He was quite outspoken about how the hollow man and his erstwhile (and present) overlords, Janik, Katz, and Mazziotti, had cut a terrible deal, and how he would not be responsible for wasting public monies in the same way.
Memories are as miniscule as paychecks in this town, but I would imagine that there could easily have been a little memory-charged grumbling had he changed his tune this time around.
Regrets for my pedantry here, and thanks for the fine coverage of the present developments in this case.
I have to echo Toilet Joe's appreciation for Mr. Davis' continued hard work. Apparently you're one of the few Merc staff members who don't have their head up their ass. Keep it up, I'd buy you an O'Douls any day of the week!
Great. Imagine what this city could do with all that money. MOST Portlanders neither want, need nor will they support MLS. Eff you Merritt Paulson, and you Dad - Bush's Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. He's the asshat who helped get us into this recession. I wouldn't trust him or his idiot son with 10 cents.
As far as I know, the point of that beverage is so that the designated driver/recovering alcoholic has something to do with his hands at a party. So, what sort of loser drinks 3 of them?
Also, Chrome keeps fucking underlining "moustache" when CLEARLY that is the CORRECT spelling.
So, Fish could have been voting to kill the deal when he voted no?
He shrugged.
"I'm an independent voice on council," he said.
Good luck with that.
Actually I fully expect him to side with Fish on things like this. If Fish wants something big that means a council member has to have a pair and admit they know more about something than regular folk that just read press releases from whatever random interest group they signed up for and repeated their talking points. Well, I don't know that I'd trust them.
On the radio this afternoon Paulson pegged the chance of this thing actually happening at 80%, something he's been loathe to do in the past.
Supposing that's true, what I want to know is: will the team be called the Timbers? Will they be bumped and upgraded, or does a whole new franchise/history begin?
I mean this seriously. It seems to me as if a simple team promotion would help the chance of survival, rather than picking some new stupid name with no local history or identification... (Don't expect the Timber army to ditch all their cool scarves and chants to follow the Portland "Caffeine" or some such new age garbage). Shit, bring back Timber Jim for a season and give him some MLS money (what's that, like 12K a year?)
Really though.
Squirting coffee through my nose at the thought of poor wittle Mattie drowning in nonbeers after throwing in with Bogdanski and coming up craps.
Poor Amanda appeared to have been swayed by a 7 year old report presented by the Blazers VP. That was a bizarre episode...
But 3? Seriously, are you out of tap water?
The team is staying the Timbers. We will move to a more stable league. If we didn't go to MLS, and Vancouver goes to MLS (which is likely), we would be the only remaining USL team on this coast. The closest team would be in Austin, TX. We would be flying great distances to get to every away game. The team couldn't survive under those conditions, and would likely move or fold. Then we wouldn't have any soccer team paying rent for use of PGE, and a major part of local culture would be dead.
At the time, Fish was running a TV commercial highlighting Adams's role in the 2001 PGE Park renovation, which had only just imploded to leave the city holding the bag on ~$30 million in debt. He was quite outspoken about how the hollow man and his erstwhile (and present) overlords, Janik, Katz, and Mazziotti, had cut a terrible deal, and how he would not be responsible for wasting public monies in the same way.
Memories are as miniscule as paychecks in this town, but I would imagine that there could easily have been a little memory-charged grumbling had he changed his tune this time around.
Regrets for my pedantry here, and thanks for the fine coverage of the present developments in this case.