I once had the unfortunate experience of being victim to a completely false police report. The ACLU informed me they saw "no media interest" in false police reports & thus offered no resources for such rights violations. I'm not surprised Diaz's talk was useless. My hunch is that clubs like ACLU & PETA are shadow right-wing operations bent on making liberals look like mouth-foaming fucktards.
So Dear Police AND ACLU: as Tupac would say, suck my dick up til ya hiccup.
@ night moves, "false police reports" is a tautology. Don't blame ACLU for not having the cash to fight every pissant legal battle based on this, at no cost to you.
#5 is flatly incorrect. #6 is unclear at best, but also probably incorrect as misleading. #7 needs some work. #9 the "safe bet" is actually to insist they return with a warrant and break off further conversation. Opening the door can lead to any real or imagined "plain sight" based searches.
As always, the surest way to get fucked with is to mouth off about your rights.
@Commenty Colin, I said "resources"--a far cry from "legal battle". This was years ago when ACLU was saturating the airwaves complaining of Patriot Act surveillance. Since ACLU blow a lotta wind about "rights", it seemed reasonable to ask a local chapter what they did for locals & their rights. If false reporting "is a tautology", doesn't that make it a better candidate for reform than niche issues like library surveillance? But oh yeah, ACLU are media whores--which is a tautology.
While most states do not allow you to film or record private conversations without prior consent, an official arrest or even an investigation is not a "private conversation." Quite the opposite. An arrest and all evidence therein are a matter of public record.
Any threat made by police to the contrary is bogus and will not stand up in a court of law. Hence they say they "generally won't" arrest anyone for it. Yep. We know. Because it won't hold up in court.
Further challenging this issue is corporations have recorded private phone and online conversations with customers for years. For "training purposes." And let's not forget Federal warrantless wiretaps.
So #5? Wrong in every way. When it comes to the police or any public servant on official public duty as a matter of public record? Film away...
Regarding taping, if there is an EXPECTATION of privacy, you might be in violation of the law.
If you are in the public venue, there is no expectation of privacy so the privacy laws do not apply.
Furthermore, federal courts have been upholding the right to tape private conversations:
If the police start pushing, just clam up. It's as simple as that. If they appear to suspect you of something, don't ever utter more than four words: "I WANT A LAWYER." And then shut the hell up. They'll coerce, they'll subtly disguise questions as orders to get you do incriminate yourself, etc. Just shut up and let them bring a warrant or a lawyer.
So Dear Police AND ACLU: as Tupac would say, suck my dick up til ya hiccup.
So, yeah, be skeptical of this list.
#5 is flatly incorrect. #6 is unclear at best, but also probably incorrect as misleading. #7 needs some work. #9 the "safe bet" is actually to insist they return with a warrant and break off further conversation. Opening the door can lead to any real or imagined "plain sight" based searches.
As always, the surest way to get fucked with is to mouth off about your rights.
While most states do not allow you to film or record private conversations without prior consent, an official arrest or even an investigation is not a "private conversation." Quite the opposite. An arrest and all evidence therein are a matter of public record.
Any threat made by police to the contrary is bogus and will not stand up in a court of law. Hence they say they "generally won't" arrest anyone for it. Yep. We know. Because it won't hold up in court.
Further challenging this issue is corporations have recorded private phone and online conversations with customers for years. For "training purposes." And let's not forget Federal warrantless wiretaps.
So #5? Wrong in every way. When it comes to the police or any public servant on official public duty as a matter of public record? Film away...
If you are in the public venue, there is no expectation of privacy so the privacy laws do not apply.
Furthermore, federal courts have been upholding the right to tape private conversations:
Bojack did a good post about this:
http://bojack.org/2010/08/speak_into_my_la…