Comments

1
'They are depending on YOU to lead them and give them ideas on how they can make changes to our corrupt, fucked up system'

No, we already busy doing our own work supporting ourselves and them.

That's why we're not lying in the streets whining.
2
@D, the post is written to "Hey Occupy Portland People," which I assume is an indication this is an open letter directly to the management of Occupy Portland.

In other news, I agree with Steve.
3
Work with the Parks Bureau and others to do some mad ivy pulls and parks cleanups. Think of other volunteer ops that would generate a rain of good publicity. Data entry for non-profits. Build an occupy temporary labor service. Win.
4
Heck, maybe they could just clean up and restore that park when they finally leave, instead of expecting us all to take the cost out of the city budget.
5
So they can see my post when they're done with his.
6
Seriously.
7
*twinkles* for Steve.
(with apologies to Ovidius)
8
D, another in a long line of self-righteous internet commenters basking smugly in their good fortune that they've not yet been laid off and haven't spent months or years trying to find work in a nation without nearly enough jobs to go around. People get fed up with not being able to find a decent job and try to do something about it, and all others can do is look down their noses at them for not having a job in the first place, as if it's their own fault they're one of the 20% who can't find the work they want or the 10% who can't find work at all. Such compassion.
9
Is the news reporting so terrible about occupy Portland that people really think there is a management or leadership of the thing?!?!?

There is none!

10
@theterminizer "Good fortune that they haven't been laid off?" No, D is right - the people who still have jobs worked for them. Here are the statistics from the US Department of Labor: http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm

Unemployment rates are only 1.9% for people with doctorates, and 14.9% for people who didn't graduate high school. There's no "good fortune" involved in being employable. You have to MAKE yourself so, by getting skills that people will actually pay you for.

Or, you know, you could sit in the street and whine because no one will pay you lots of money to do something easy.
11
theterminizer - you have a lot of nerve trying to tell me about my 'good fortune' when you have no idea how I live.

Your assumptions are as wrong as your facts.

And no, I have no compassion for the petulant crybaby children lying in the street making many people's struggling to survive - all while costing us more.
12
@Reymont: statistics have to be interpreted carefully. Many people with doctorates are finding it near impossible to get the jobs that they were trained to do. I know some who have already defended their dissertations and are delivering pizzas, barely surviving.
Or, you know, you can believe that people are unemployed or poor because they haven't worked hard enough.
13
*twinkles* for Reymont and D
(all apologies extended again to Ovidius)
14
@Geyser - You can believe the statistics from the US Department of Labor website that I already helpfully linked to for you.

Or, you know, you could go by what some some friend of yours said.

Having said that - I'm sure it's totally possible to get a worthless doctorate. I DID say "skills that people will actually pay you for."

15
I think you're intentionally ignoring my point: that someone with a PhD who is delivering pizzas and barely surviving is "employed" and thus not counted in that kind of unemployment statistics.
I didn't say anything about what "some friend of mine" said. I could easily present a really solid case that people with advanced degrees are in trouble, but why bother? It's all over the press anyway, if you bother to read it, or not opportunistically pretend like it's not there.
16
Is this really a problem at all for 99.9% of people with PhD's?
17
the first step was gathering in the streets...
the next step is taking it to the next level...that requires more long-term planning, and better organization
18
@Geyser - OH! I did miss that point, sorry. You're right, those stats don't cover what kind or quality of employment those folks have.

Still, if it did, I would think - based on no data, unfortunately - that higher levels of education would show the same strongly positive trend as is shown for income and employment levels. That seems a very basic and reasonable assumption.

Please wait...

Comments are closed.

Commenting on this item is available only to members of the site. You can sign in here or create an account here.


Add a comment
Preview

By posting this comment, you are agreeing to our Terms of Use.