Comments

1
Shit, meet fan.
2
No, I'm just being negative. What could go wrong?
3
LOLWUT. OCCUPYPDX GONE AND DONE BURNED ALL THEIR GOODWILL.
4
A couple weeks too late, but glad he reached this decision. This group has been given rights and privileges that no other group would have been given, simply because the mayor (and the City Council) happens to agree with their views. Had this been an evangelical gathering, or an anti-abortion group, they would have been kicked out 2 minutes after midnight on the first day. Let's not get so distracted by their political views (which I happen to agree with) that we overlook all the problems it causes for the city to have the gathering down there.
5
ALSO, THE OCCUPY WALL STREET MOVEMENT HAS BECOME ENAMORED WITH THE METAPHOR RATHER THAN THE ACTION. BIVOUACING IN THE CITY'S PARK IS A METHOD FOR BRINGING ATTENTION TO YOUR MESSAGE, NOT THE ACTUAL ENDS ITSELF.

THE OCCUPIERS WILL WIN THIS PUBLIC RELATIONS FIGHT IF THEY PACK UP AND LEAVE PEACEFULLY. NOT THAT THIS WILL EVER HAPPEN, #OP HAS ZERO ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING THAT MAKES THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THEM ACTUALLY SUPPORT THEM.
6
What are the mayor's plans for disinfecting the park of disease and bodily waste making it safe for both people and animals again, bleach?

Who is going to responsible for covering what is going to be a half million cost to the city? What budget gets reduced?

What made you finally develop a spine and why wait until Sunday to remove the vagrants?
7
Graham--none of the original occupiers, who might have done just that, are left. It's all the crazies and the black bloc kids down there now.
8
PROTIP: THE MULTNOMAH COUNTY DETENTION CENTER HAS 448 BEDS. THEY'VE GOT ENOUGH SPACE TO HOLD ALL OF YOU.
9
Wonder why the middle of the night? Will they wait until a more decent hour to clear it out, or do it at 12:01? Curious.

Even if relatively peaceful, it's going to be a freaking circus to move all those people and all that crap out of there.
10
Blabby, I would think you'd have alot less bystanders,traffic, etc.
And, late sunday night is about the sleepiest time for downtown you can get.

Good points Dave J.
11
@BLABBY: BECAUSE AT 00:01, THE OCCUPIERS WILL BE THERE ILLEGALLY. THEY CANNOT EVICT THEM FROM THE PARK WHILE THEY ARE THERE LEGALLY (DURING ALREADY ESTABLISHED OPEN HOURS WHICH ARE 05:00-24:00).
12
It would be entirely feasible for OP to transition to doing regular daytime demonstrations, and then clearing out at night. Demonstrators could show up during park hours, display signs, get their message out, and then head out at night. Portland would be okay with that.

Also, the lack of permanent infrastructure would mean that OP could be completely message-focused, as opposed to having to contend with issues of homelessness and transience, something they are not best equipped to deal with. There is a reasonable compromise here, and as Graham mentioned the camps are means rather than ends. Here's hoping that this doesn't get ugly.
13
Actually frankieb, 12:01 on Sunday would be very active downtown (i.e. late Saturday night.) Same drunken rowdies that showed up at Jamison and made it harder on both sides.
14
Did anyone else snicker at the 'too productive to worry about sunday' line?
15
The people living in downtown Portland will finally get to use that duct tape and plastic sheeting they purchased after 9/11.

If they do it neatly they can leave it up all winter and feel toasty warm, those sealed windows save energy.
16
I support what the movement stands for and I think it is time to try another method. Just because the occupy concept worked in Egypt does not mean that it will work in Portland/USA. Time to think of something new.
17
Well, I guess I have shorter notice than I thought to implement my coordinated heist of [Insert Heist Film Cliche Location Here].
18
It will not happen at either 12:01 or 12:02, they will wait until 4 AM to clear the camp, just like they did at Jamison park and Terry Schrunk plaza.
19
@16 Didi it work in Egypt. How's Egypt doing these days?
20
@19 yeah it did work.
21
What is it that leads people to think that occupying a park in the middle of Portland communicates anything meaningful? OWS I understand has symbolic merit. But Portland is far from the heart of economic tyranny and inequity embodied by Wall Street. The only message Occupy Portland's ambitions toward permanent occupation sends is “We're out of ideas.”
22
@20 If your definition of "work" is an indefinite military dictatorship worse than the Mubarak regime...yeah, it worked great!
23
I agree with a lot of these positive, solution oriented comments. I also think that they can transition to daily protests AND with the comment that the camping itself isn't the cause, merely an attention-getter for the cause. What I don't agree with are all of these Right-Wing, name-calling posts. Like you Neocons wouldn't be the first ones there defending "Liberty" if this was a Tea Party event being asked to leave. Remember, it was the Right Wing wackos who brought GUNS to protest, spit on Congress members and tried to blow up a house! Wackos through and through... and here you are bitching about the litter these folks MIGHT leave behind. Why don't all of you Right-Wingers move to Texas? Seriously!
24
@BOOSHAMP: LOLWUT. WHERE THE NEOCONS AT? I DIDN'T SEE ANY.
25
@Graham: First, you gotta proofread what you write. You fo know that you're not texting here, right? And what's with the ALL CAPS?
Regardless, if you read the thread here, you would see what I am talking about. Did you just read mine and decide to pound out a few fragmented sentences with your discombobulated thoughts? It's not beer-thirty just yet, my friend... put down the bottle.
26
@BOOSHAMP: AGAIN, I SAY WHERE THE NEOCONS AT? PLEASE BE SPECIFIC. DON'T OBFUSCATE THE MATTER BY ALLUDING TO A VAGUE SENSE OF PERCEIVED POLITICAL IDEOLOGY. DEAL AND DISCUSS THE CONCRETE. YOU MADE A CLAIM. I'M ASKING YOU TO BACK IT UP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJkHykGRXrw
27
@6

I know what budget will get reduced: Bureau of Transpo and the public access TV grant.

@5 "Bivouacing"??
28
Booshamp-
As an old school paleo-con, as opposed to a neocon, with views that make George Bush (the second) look downright touchy feely librul, I must concur with Graham that there ain't no 'neocons' on here. You really ought to brush up on your reading comprehension if you think that the critics of Occupy Portland on here are somehow the same rabid nut jobs posting on OregonLive. Two different crowds.
30
Jake:

My guess is that the mamma jamma on the left is Portland's lame duck shadow mayor and former Mercury News Editor/not-so-stealth Adams' campaign shill Amy J. Ruiz. But I could be wrong.
31
The Mayor is announcing that he will evict the occupation using force this Saturday. Let the Mayor know that he doesn't get to decide what happens here - the 99% do!

Sam Adams has announced that he will be sending in the police to forcefully evict Occupy Portland. The violence being threatened against the occupation is the same violence used to evict people from their homes, the same violence used to drive out the poor and working class through the process of gentrification, the same violence that is used daily by the city and police to protect the interests of the 1% at the expense of the 99%. Despite his feigned concern for the safety of the occupiers, he is in reality responding to pressure brought by Standard Insurance, the Portland Business Alliance, and other members of the 1% who oppose the occupation in principle. The Mayor has repeatedly worked to undermine the occupation and distract it from growing into a powerful social movement - this is just another in a long line of manufactured crisis created by the mayor to disrupt the occupation and discredit it. The fear mongering that has been occurring over the past week has been intentional, to alienate the occupation from it's supporters.

This Saturday, we need everyone who supports the right of the occupiers to exist, who opposes police violence, everyone who thinks that this moment in time is too important to give up on - we need all of you at the occupation on Saturday night. They hope to control us through fear - through fear of violence, fear of arrest. We must say that we will not be afraid anymore. That we will not be bullied into submission. For everyone who supports freedom and self-determination, this is your moment to act in defense of those values. All out to the occupation this Saturday! These moments don't happen often, this may be our last opportunity to come together as a people and challenge the powers that be - we can't let it go without a fight.

Long live the Portland Commune!
33
Hopefully, many citizens with cameras, cell phones, and other recording equipment will be on hand Saturday and ready to document ANY/ALL abusive police/gestapo action!
34
It would seem that many do not understand one of the underlying tensions of Occupy Portland. While it may not have any "financial industry" to speak of, it has many displays of what happens when those industries go unchecked for decades. What we see at the encampment is a lot of idealistic energy being sucked into the black hole of our system's ailments -- poverty, homelessness, madness. But the occupiers understand that our community, not the federal government, is responsible for addressing our community's needs. Ideally, our very powerful fed could help with this, but ultimately every time we walk by a beggar or ignore the mutterings of a schizophrenic on the street it is a failure of our community, which we all claim to be a part of. Just my $0.02, for what it's worth.
35
Well said, Ryan. Great points.
36
Btw, who is that rather busty female on the left? Does she work at City Hall?
37
She is Mike Reeses personal bodygaurd.
38
Anyone else see our Mayor Adams on the News Hour a bit ago discussing 'occupy'?
Lots of Portland coverage...
39
I'm sure you can't get enough, Frankie.
40
I don't think I've seen any neocons on here. To say that someone is a neocon means that they espouse some distinguishable political ideology, which people like Andy from Beaverton do not. What we have instead of neocons seem to be ranting twits trying to be snarky and failing, saying the exact same things over and over, and affirming nothing concrete.
We do apparently have at least one paleocon, however, Pat Buchanan being probably the most famous living exponent of that slowly dying, reactionary school of thought, so that certainly adds a more interesting element.
41
Will head down to Occupy later tonight to keep watch and document ANY police violence. Hopefully, many other concerned citizens will do the same!

www.targetingcops.blogspot.com
42
"The police/gustapos" are paid by we the people of Portland with our taxes you knuckleheads. Reading this post lowered by IQ.
43
I support the right to OCCUPY a location regardless of the laws others put in place to limit and prohibit yours and my RIGHTS to gather in a peaceful assembly of protest against the government. We the people - Right regardless of our differences and income, regardless of our disabilities either physical, mental or both, regardless of our color, religion...Have the right to come together and dispute areas of misrepresentation by those elected into offices.
We the people - Why would you limit another person's opportunity to a have a voice. Although I agree with the person who made the post about how the city would not have supported a "conservative" movement such as anti-choice and I am not in agreement with there position, I do agree with equal voice for all and the need to agree to disagree. We do not do that. We agree to brow beat the other side until we win. I think that is why the 99% have to come together in solidarity to get bigger than those we entrusted to take care of us. Government is not the babysitter of its citizens. We are to be accountable for our actions to one another and our ourselves. But we the PEOPLE have become co-dependent on the BIG BROTHER for all of our basic needs. We have feed the corporate financiars through being blindly led to think what they've got, "I need to have it" rather than learn to live with basic needs.
I have a story about that too.
When I was a kid in the dark ages, we had a hot water bottle wrapped in flannel for all that ached you. Now we have some type of chemical stuff that was brutally tested on animals, in 1000 years or more plastic without knowing what the solution will do to us all over the shelves of the stores. But when I look for the most basic item, a hot water bottle, the pharmicist told me they do not carry them any more. WHY? Because we have bought into the concept these little jelly packets of heat and cooling are better than what our great grandparents used for years and did not have to throw away. We bought into the throw away society companies created to continue growing their profit margins. Why, because of greed.
What will you do when the companies come after your home, your job, your children, your food supply, your information source? Will you wonder why was I not standing with OCCUPY Everywhere when I had the chance for a voice to end the paradigm of greed and control. Something to think about.
44
The woman to the left of Chief Reese is Amy Ruiz, Mayor Adams' Communications staffer hired away from the Merc after flopping on the Breedlove story. She's gained weight after becoming a mother recently.

Please wait...

Comments are closed.

Commenting on this item is available only to members of the site. You can sign in here or create an account here.


Add a comment
Preview

By posting this comment, you are agreeing to our Terms of Use.