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Thanks Occupy. Now that truck driver has to figure out how to deliver his cargo. Nice. Bunch of assholes. This just reflects how completely out of balance the Occupy movement has become. How is this helping anyone? Will they pay for lost wages? This just really disappoints me in the Occupy Portland movement. It seems arrogant and misguided now.
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I think the precise name is the Rivergate Industrial district, since the Port has lots of properties. http://www.portofportland.com/Prp_Prtfl.as…
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I hate this. I never thought that people who complained that Occupy was "preventing them from enjoying a park" had a valid point. They weren't, you were welcome down there, and they had just as much right to use it as you did. Sure, they should have left at night and shouldn't have littered...but people shouldn't jaywalk, either. No big.

But this is just....pointless damage. They've got no right to do this, doing it helps no one, and doing it hurts a lot of people.
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So... no demands or anything? Nothing to actually negotiate about? No fucking point?
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Impressive that they mustered so many people. That's a good sign for the movement. But the choice of target just signals naivete about how the economy works.

First of all, exports is what keeps most of us employed. A region has to be able to sell stuff outside of its own confines in order to bring new money in. Otherwise we're passing the same buck around in a circle. Blocking exports is hurting local manufacturers, farmers, lumberjacks, port workers, etc. You think those workers are in the 1%?

We certainly outsource jobs and buy too much crap from China. But a lot of that stuff is still heading for local small businesses. And frankly, at Christmas time, people want it. My kid wants the lego set that he wants. He doesn't want some wooden toy from Made in Oregon.

We need to concentrate on ending debt dependence and predatory bank behavior. We need to have real businesses that innovate and make things we can sell. Then we can buy some of the plastic crap we seem to want, but not on a credit card, and the system chugs along.
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This country is fucked beyond repair. I wish the imaginary god would just fly his fucking plane into our metaphorical building.
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Wait and see how much you enjoy anarchy if REAL anarchy comes about.
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For those who are wondering "what's the point", the following would be an important piece for you to read:

http://www.alternet.org/economy/153393/how_goldman_sachs_and_other_companies_exploit_port_truck_drivers_%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%E2%80%9D_occupy_protesters_plan_to_shut_down_west_coast_ports_in_protest?page=1
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I kinda love it that the guy with the "SAVE AMERICA BUY USA" sign is leaning on a bicycle manufactured in China.
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If people LOOK at where the products that they are purchasing are coming from this wouldn't be an issue. Blabby, you need to teach your child that it doesn't hurt not to get something that they want if it's not something that they need especially if it's made in another country. Too many in this country are more concerned about acquiring STUFF than they are about their neighbors and if their neighbor has a job or health care or food for their table or can afford to heat their home in the winter or cool it in the summer for those that live in the South. It's time that people wake up and stop caring about how much they own and start caring about what is happening to this country and a large number of people in this country. 1/4 of the kids in this country don't have enough food so they go to bed hungry. 1/3 of the people of this country are currently living at or below the poverty line. Closing down the ports does effect the 1%ers bottom line and sends me message that we shouldn't be importing everything under the sun. If I believe the majority of those trucks that have been shut down today were there to deliver stuff to be exported and not to pick up crap that was imported from overseas I might feel differently but the reality is that we import way more than we export and that has to be stopped or we will become a 3rd world nation!
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I just came from there and there were over 1,000 people at both terminals and the park and points in between.
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So I guess the folks who work at ports 5 and 6 didn't get paid today. Maybe Occupy can form a drum circle benefit to raise money for the families that lost wages due to today's protest.

OPDX, this is why everyone hates you. You're only hurting working people with this shit.
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@12: where does it say that they didn't get paid?
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My dad was a Marine and then a truck driver for over 30 years. He is in support of this movement and yes the system did exploit him. Good for you guys!
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Educaschoon, if Goldman Sachs is exploiting ports, go protest Goldman Sachs.

Peary85, I "need to teach my kids" what I think is best. No protest movement is going to reform the lifestyle of everyone in the country. We need to focus on reducing our debt culture. If people are living within their means, it isn't my business or your business what they're buying.
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Debt culture isn't really a choice when essential things like housing, healthcare & education are well outside of the means of most of the people in this country.
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@13 - In the friggin article. Also: common sense.
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Hey Kimmy, Sarahfina, et al:

Maybe instead of speaking for truck drivers, you can let them speak for themselves:

http://cleanandsafeports.org/blog/2011/12/12/an-open-letter-from-america%E2%80%99s-port-truck-drivers-on-occupy-the-ports/
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Ovidius, if the longshoremen don't work, they don't get paid.

"Port of Portland spokesman Josh Thomas said Longshore workers at terminals 5 and 6 were told to stay home and would not be paid for the day."
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"There are no restrooms for drivers. We keep empty bottles in our cabs. Plastic bags too. We feel like dogs. An Oakland driver was recently banned from the terminal because he was spied relieving himself behind a container. Neither the port, nor the terminal operators or anyone in the industry thinks it is their responsibility to provide humane and hygienic facilities for us. It is absolutely horrible for drivers who are women, who risk infection when they try to hold it until they can find a place to go.

The companies demand we cut corners to compete. It makes our roads less safe. When we try to blow the whistle about skipped inspections, faulty equipment, or falsified logs, then we are “starved out.” That means we are either fired outright, or more likely, we never get dispatched to haul a load again."

http://cleanandsafeports.org/blog/2011/12/…
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Ovidius: "Debt culture isn't really a choice when essential things like housing, healthcare & education"

I acknowledge all those problems, but the answers aren't at the Port.
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@19: That update came 5 minutes after my comment. And Reymont, not really common sense. It depends on their union contracts. I know I've been told not to come to work and still be compensated per my contract.
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If the businesses affected had ethics, they'd compensate their workers anyway. But I suspect they won't. Ethics = responsibility and consideration for those whose work you depend on to line your pockets while keeping them at barely-subsistence wages. This action was coordinated nationwide, and while I understand the ire of a few, it's a one-day event to keep attention focused on those who steal from my fellow taxpayers. I'm guessing the negative comments here are from people who DON'T pay taxes? That being the case, while you're entitled to your opinion, it doesn't affect anyone or anything...
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@23 - Haha! Guess again.
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#popcorn
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#potash
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kherpuppet, it seems much more likely that the people "who don't pay taxes" are the ones who have the flexibility to live in a park for a month, or spend a monday out protesting.
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Maybe you should read about how the workers feel before you get all worked up assuming you know whats best for everyone. http://cleanandsafeports.org/blog/2011/12/…’s-port-truck-drivers-on-occupy-the-ports/
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Maybe you should read about how the workers feel before you get all worked up assuming you know whats best for everyone.

http://cleanandsafeports.org/blog/2011/12/…’s-port-truck-drivers-on-occupy-the-ports/
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smc: That thinking goes both ways. Just like the people participating in Occupy Portland don't represent everyone in the 99%, I'm sure the words of that small group of workers don't reflect every longshormen's opinion. Losing a day's pay before the holidays may suck for some (or even a lot) of them.
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@Venable - Assuming the general description of working conditions is true, which would you think was worse - losing a day's pay or working in those conditions for the rest of your career?
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Rest assured my good public, Boat Cop was paid today.
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The corporations are surely trembling after today. Seriously, who is aiming this water pistol called the occupy movement. I was very much for the occupy movement when I thought it was actually addressing income inequality and overly corporate friendly laws. The occupy movement is making the change i would like to see more difficult with crap like this.
Ryan
d-_-b
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From what I'm reading around the web it seems as if there are many, many working class folks who lost a days pay because of this.
Just before X-Mas too. Nice.
I wish 'occupy' would begin to see complexities of issues and quit hurting the very people they claim to represent.
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Oh gawd. A bearded hippie with an accordion. Are you occutards trying to torture people to death, or make them die laughing, or both?
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Errr, frankieb, if I recall weren't you trolling Blogtown on Labor Day telling us how evil unions are and extolling corporate power? You weren't so concerned with those workers then, why the sudden change?

I'm gonna hazard a guess and say that most of the workers that lost a day had personal leave or sick leave to use, and that a grand majority of them are also in support of Occupy. Not a big deal. Simmer down rodeo clown(s).
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"Save America, buy USA"
Somebody notify the retard holding the sign that most of his clothes and his bike were made in China.
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@37...that would be to obvious and too easy. This entire situation is just getting ridiculous now. Whats next, occupy Fred Meyer?
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@blabby
I had the flexibility to take a shower after work and ride my bicycle down to the port. I was rewarded with $284 in fines. The tax-payer funded PPD cost me 4 days of labor!

I most certainly pay taxes every year but thankfully am not a private contractor nor am I denied humane and hygienic facilities at my place of work in the name of competition!

@blabby: "it seems much more likely that the people "who don't pay taxes" are the ones who have the flexibility to live in a park for a month, or spend a monday out protesting."
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Did we win?
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I was at the ports after 4 in the afternoon. From what I saw, the workers were supportive of the community picket line. Truckers gave us the thumbs up. Gonna agree with 36, not sure where this sudden sympathy for workers comes from.
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Ovidius - I am all for Unions, just not PEU's. Big difference. Also, I am labor. I am that blue collar man.
And this blocking of the port hasn't done any good for these folks.
Gawd, the ego of you guys.... 'I know what you need better than you do'.
Read around - you guys got many folks losing money.
Get real with yourselves.
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Couple of things'...

This shutdown wasn't created in a vacuum, truckers in LA called for it.

Occupy Oakland's renewed call to shut down the "Wall Street on the waterfront" was sparked in large part by the October firing of 26 port truckers in Los Angeles and Long Beach who wore Teamster T-shirts to work in defiance of their anti-union employer, the Australian-owned Toll Group

This action was also in solidarity with ILWU's struggle against EGT(who is trying to break the union) The union leadership can't legally support it, but rank and file have supported the shutdown. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JUpBpZYwms

The Working Class is under attack, and it sounds like some of you think we should just take it while on our knees. Standing up to power is going create short term inconveniences, but without doing so we would never have gain the 8 hour day, the weekend, overtime, safty conditions, ect. All of these gains are under attack.

That's what I think the big picture is.
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For all of you worried about a worker led actions(the longshoremen and Port Truckers who called for this action were obviously aware of the risks-loss of pay, retaliation against them or their union), but went ahead with it, under the belief that its demonstration of power may embolden their fellow workers. Time will tell(I'm inclined that what I saw in Oakland on Nov 2nd and here on Dec 12th will point towards the emergence of a new working class movement, the Union of the 99%. The Union of the unemployed, those with no trade union, those with a bad trade union, the retired, the students, and more. That, as with the IWW of its heydey, this union will face the charge of,"criminals!" from the annals of power and,"illegitimate," from the labor bureaucracy. Occupy has demonstrated its potential as a force-it has now taken on free speech fights in the streets(in true Northwest tradition, as the IWW did in its heydey here), has begun to move families into empty homes, to fight evictions, and has now taken its power-and in defiance of trade union leadership's threats, to picket, and shutdown, alongside some of North America's most militant and defiant rank and file trade unionists. This is where we begin to move from protest to power.
For those concerned about missed jobs and wages on December 12th day-don't worry. At the same time theyre cutting schools and social services, Sam Adams and his buddy Mike Reese have used Occupy to justify massively ballooning police budgets-in hardware, chemical munitions, and unneccessary overtime hours-giving an already overfed politically protected police force with disproportionate political power and a propensity to kill a sweet little christmas present.
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For all of you worried about a worker led actions(the longshoremen and Port Truckers who called for this action were obviously aware of the risks-loss of pay, retaliation against them or their union), but went ahead with it, under the belief that its demonstration of power may embolden their fellow workers. Time will tell(I'm inclined that what I saw in Oakland on Nov 2nd and here on Dec 12th will point towards the emergence of a new working class movement, the Union of the 99%. The Union of the unemployed, those with no trade union, those with a bad trade union, the retired, the students, and more. That, as with the IWW of its heydey, this union will face the charge of,"criminals!" from the annals of power and,"illegitimate," from the labor bureaucracy. Occupy has demonstrated its potential as a force-it has now taken on free speech fights in the streets(in true Northwest tradition, as the IWW did in its heydey here), has begun to move families into empty homes, to fight evictions, and has now taken its power-and in defiance of trade union leadership's threats, to picket, and shutdown, alongside some of North America's most militant and defiant rank and file trade unionists. This is where we begin to move from protest to power.
For those concerned about missed jobs and wages on December 12th day-don't worry. At the same time theyre cutting schools and social services, Sam Adams and his buddy Mike Reese have used Occupy to justify massively ballooning police budgets-in hardware, chemical munitions, and unneccessary overtime hours-giving an already overfed politically protected police force with disproportionate political power and a propensity to kill a sweet little christmas present.

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