Ukrainian Su-25 Fighter detected in Close Approach to MH17 before Crash: Photographic Evidence:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukrainian-su-…

Not to say that we're being lied to by western governments about the circumstances of the downed airplane so it can be blamed on Russia to service direct western military intervention in a region they've already spent so much money on trying to split apart ... but I just don't know how to finish that sentence.

The Russian military is saying the Ukrainians did it???

Not to say we're being lied to by the Russian government so it can be blamed... etc., etc.

In summary: relying on words from Russia is as problematic as any western government. Maybe the Dutch will sort it all out.