There was a time when everyone wanted to date a snobby, cynical, self absorbed old man with a stick up his bum and his nose stuck up in the air, but now women seem to want someone who isn't a clinically depressed meglomaniac with a crazy ex wife who he has to deal with on a regular basis because they have 3 kids together. What is this world coming to?
I get checked out way more now that I'm squared away. A decently-dressed thirty-something man with little kids in tow is like chum before sharks in some environments.
Unfortunately, one is generally married at that point. Grass is always greener.
@7....sshhhh, you're not allowed to use that word here! Its a known fact there is no such thing. As for anon, that is not representative of every woman between the ages of 21 and 40 in Portland. Where on earth are you hanging out? ( I am guessing a few of the posters on here probably hang out there). Why don't you try a change of scenery?. Do you real want a woman who is drawn towards underemployed barista's or musicians because of their "band" or stupid tattoo? Really ? I doesn't sound like your situation is that dire. You do know what Portland can be like right? So change the scene. If you are past your thirties, that probably is'nt your scene anyway
Over-generalizing, yeah. But to a certain extent, I,A does have valid points.
Also, back on the East Coast, guys who didn't use deodorant, didn't shave, and were generally funky and not well-trimmed typically did NOT get laid. None of that seems to be the case here. How on Earth is it that horrible b.o. is NOT a deterrent to scoring poon here?
Gotta side with DamosA on this one. The Mrs. and I were at a Rev HH show and this couple sat in front of us. Dude raised his arms and the stench was so bad my gal puked. Shoulda puked on him for effect I thought.
(as an aside we both work ER, so we're used to funky smells. That's how bad it was).
i don't think that any of these qualities have ceased to be attractive, for many women. It seems more like you have entered the world of adulthood. Try seeking out those who are at the same level as you. Because, really, any woman who would be turned off by you owning a home or having a job & responsibilities is not a woman, she is a girl. And as shallow as any girl who would judge you for renting a basement, not having a "good" job, being covered in body mod art, etc.
It goes both ways. And there are plenty of women out there who do nothing but complain about the lack of men like you. So, don't lose faith. Just get out to places where you are more likely to meet women who share your values. Good luck.
"You live like this, sheltered, in a delicate world, and you believe you are living. Then you read a book… or you take a trip… and you discover that you are not living, that you are hibernating. The symptoms of hibernating are easily detectable: first, restlessness. The second symptom (when hibernating becomes dangerous and might degenerate into death): absence of pleasure. That is all. It appears like an innocuous illness. Monotony, boredom, death. Millions live like this (or die like this) without knowing it. They work in offices. They drive a car. They picnic with their families. They raise children. And then some shock treatment takes place, a person, a book, a song, and it awakens them and saves them from death. Some never awaken."
Anais Nin
While I don't agree with his assessment entirely I do share in his frustration in finding good women in Portland to spend time with. However, most of the women that I have met around here who were interested in me were turned on by the fact that I have direction and bathe every day, so I don't know about all that stuff. Also, having a 9-5 Monday to Friday gig doesn't mean you can't "leave town on a whim." That's why the weekends exist, live a little. You seem very uptight.
@kalikill, great points, not just for anon but for many others including myself. @Iceprez....just being honest. Been there, done that and ended up in relationships I fought to maintain while I was living a lie, a caricature of what someone else wanted. It was not very fun, or pretty. Ultimately you have to decide what it is you truly want Anon, not what you think you want or perhaps desire
for I,Anon; probably life isn't an ikea catalog. I have a job which requires working flexibility hours, I can go dressed like I want to, there's lot's of socialization, and I decide what I want to do, in my own terms. And the future doesn't look all that bad. So it just takes a focus adjustment.
There is nothing with Poster's lifestyle.
There is nothing wrong with basement-dwellers' lifestyle. Poster just needs to make sure to keep his contact with basement-dwellers at a minimum since he can't seem to deal with them.
The Golden Rule of live and let live would really benefit him.
Unfortunately, one is generally married at that point. Grass is always greener.
Also, back on the East Coast, guys who didn't use deodorant, didn't shave, and were generally funky and not well-trimmed typically did NOT get laid. None of that seems to be the case here. How on Earth is it that horrible b.o. is NOT a deterrent to scoring poon here?
(as an aside we both work ER, so we're used to funky smells. That's how bad it was).
Also, ladies: when guys refer to your vaginas as poon, is it a turn on?
You always find that perfect segway to respond to one of my comments, huh? BIG defender of women, all of a sudden, Geo?
It goes both ways. And there are plenty of women out there who do nothing but complain about the lack of men like you. So, don't lose faith. Just get out to places where you are more likely to meet women who share your values. Good luck.
Anais Nin
There is nothing wrong with basement-dwellers' lifestyle. Poster just needs to make sure to keep his contact with basement-dwellers at a minimum since he can't seem to deal with them.
The Golden Rule of live and let live would really benefit him.