Anonymous Jul 10, 2014 at 9:26 pm

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Stop smoking where it clearly says don't fucking smoke and you have a deal. Stop costing businesses thousands in fines per month because you are too lazy to walk 10 feet from the entrance as required by law while you're at it. Stop smoking with your child in the car because that's also illegal and totally fucking insane.

In short: Stop smoking, it's fucking gross.
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Are we reading the same post disastronaut? Obviously smoking is gross, and people who smoke with children in the car are total douchebags (Please see previous "Douchebag" post).

Businesses don't get fined for people smoking near their entrances, smokers do. And from what I'm reading, the author sounds like they're attempting to keep a reasonable distance.

That said, I,Anon clearly becomes unglued in the last paragraph. They should just tell people to fuck off. Simple as that.
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I smoked cigarettes in high school cause cigarettes were kewl. Then I stopped being an idiot about my health. YMMV.
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Have a smoke and calm down, you're letting the stress get to you.

And by the way, the word is "disperse".
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"Businesses don't get fined for people smoking near their entrances, smokers do."

Wrong.

Business can be fined up to $500 a day and up to $2000 in a 30-day period for people smoking within 10 feet of the entrance. Granted I'm only speaking from personal experience but I'm pretty sure the law works the same way regardless.

There's also supposed to be a $100 fine for smokers who drop their cigarette butts on the ground in public but judging from the 1000s I see at the MAX stop every day smokers aren't worried about the legality of their addiction or the mess it leaves behind.
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@disastronaut... I had no idea a business could be held accountable for a smoker's actions. If that is true ,it's an incredibly stupid law. I'd like to think you'd at least agree with me on that point.

Obviously, I'm a smoker. That's why I got a bit defensive about your comment. That and I don't litter my butts and try to avoid smoking near non-smokers.

I'd love to see the cops handing out $100 when people toss their butts on the ground, but I'd hate to see a business receive a citation because someone opted not to obey the posted sign.
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Are we reading the same post? Doubtful, since I didn't read this one.
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I don't smoke cigarettes. I'm allergic to the additives. The natural tobacco second hand smoke doesn't seem to bother me. Most smokers nowadays are extremely considerate, if not overly burdened with guilt. The aren't legally permitted to smoke near a door, but each door is invariably near to another door, so just like the homeless, vulgar code mandates for them to just keep moving.
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Assignment: write a 5 paragraph 650 word opinion piece on smoking. State your case in way that is not persuasive yet still makes you sound like a self-centered asshole. Extra credit for unintelligible sentence structure and using the word hate as a form of punctuation.
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I smoke while mowing the lawn............mamma says........
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I don't smoke but I hate the whiners who act like the fact they smelled it is some crime. Compared to the damage a cars exhaust does smoking is nothing. If anyone drives within 20 feet of me I am going to rock there windshield.
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I'm a smoker, and a considerate one who goes out of my way to stay out of everyone else's...but let's be honest and just acknowledge that the goal of the anti-smokers is to make smoking ANYWHERE and EVERYWHERE illegal, ok?...AND I dispose of butts properly, even if I have to stow them in a pocket until I find a trash-can/ashtray.

Yeah, it's a"filthy, unhealthy, expensive habit". So is eating meat, imo, and there are plenty of times the outdoor grilling and other cooking odors of meat eaters bother me (and grilling meat releases carcinogens, which not only coat the meat but waft into the communal air...just saying). But I don't have a hissy fit about it.

I may NEVER quit smoking entirely (my grandmother did, at 98, two years before she died of old age in her sleep, after chainsmoking for 80 years or so...it may be in my genes to be a nicotine addict) but I smoke organic and make a pack last 2 or 3 days so bite me.

Can't smoke in Pioneer Courthouse Square, even on the curb outside of it. Even when not another soul is within 50 yards. The cops will come along and make you stand in the STREET (in the path of the cars belching smoke). Guess the intended message is that smoking is dangerous; you might get hit by a truck trying to find a legal outdoor place to smoke one.

Aren't supposed to smoke within 10 to 25 ft of any entrances, on numerous outdoor campuses (of schools, universities, hospitals, businesses, etc...), in crosswalks, on the sidewalk, virtually anywhere anymore. Who cares if cars and trucks are passing by the hundreds a few feet away, spewing carbon monoxcide and particulates all around the same areas...the smoke from a little burning ORGANIC PLANT MATTER is simply intolerable to our virgin lungs.

My favorite example of the sort of self-righteous, judgmental, irrational, anti-smoker behavior IA describes:

I was sitting with a few other pariahs, I mean smokers, in the "designated smoking area" outside one of the entrances to Lloyd Center (a bench located convieniently just inside one of the exits of the parking garage.)

Sitting there on a busy shopping day, the clouds of car exhaust billow out of the underground structure and almost knock you out. But if you INSIST on smoking...I see what they did there.

So a woman comes walking out of the parking structure, spots us from 30 feet away and sets her face in a "think I'm gonna barf" grimace. She starts stage-coughing as she approaches (exiting the exhaust-filled PARKING GARAGE and towards us, as our tiny puffs of tobacco smoke are sucked up and away from her and us by the breeze, mind you) then says loudly as she passes, "GREAT, now I have to get CANCER to go to the mall!"

Someone should tell her about the huge study which was done a decade or so ago which found that heart and lung disease deaths from ambient and/or particulate air pollution (indoor from gassing-off electronics, furniture, dry-cleaning and carpeting as well as household cleaners; outdoors from auto exhaust; industrial and agricultural effluence; fireplaces and other burning; all sources OTHER than 1st or 2nd-hand smoking) were TEN TIMES as many as previously estimated. Which translates into a hell of a lot of deaths blamed on 1st or 2nd-hand smoking which are ACTUALLY caused by these other exposures (don't hold your breath waiting for the smoking death numbers to be adjusted down in light of the evidence, no puns intended).

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