As a listener of doom and retro metal I always hate going to all ages shows. Teenagers just don't listen to that kind of music. Venues like Hawthorne theater and the Satyricon before it had everyone of age sitting in the back while in front of the stage was completely empty. It had to be frustrating for the bands playing that they couldn't see the audience let alone hear the reaction to their playing

Hey Aaron, you are the reason articles like this and angry young people exist. I used to go to the exact shows you are talking about and I was one of those kids at those shows, those were the most important things in a lot of people's lives at that time and saved more lives while creating a community that a fucking Thrones show at the know ever have. I would do fucking anything to get that back but asshole elitist jerkoffs like you are the reason we can't have that.

This article was an amazingly important thing that has had to be said for a very long time, and the people interviewed in it are fucking heroes, they are the idols of my generation who have stuck it out and hosted all ages shows since and before I was ever going to see live music. For that I will always be grateful for the hundreds of shows I was able to attend before I turned 21, before everyone I know became a jaded freak that wouldn't go to a show that didn't permit alcohol, before the cyclical hate and fighting between bands, promoters, kids, adults, and Venus.

Thank you mo, this article is amazing.

As a musician who started playing live while underage, and plays in a band with underage musicians, its so important to have an outlet where kids can just fucking play, make shitty bands, make metal bands emo band grunge bands punk bands noise bands jam bands rubber bands, but just have a place to try and make something and make it again and again.

What i see in Aaron's post is a difference between consumerism and community. Bar shows which enlist a person secular to a certain genre or scene, are fundamentally based on consuming. The reason your going to that show on that night is because you want to consume a certain act and that bar has established a venue in which you can do so.

The shows Mo talks about aren't there for consumption, they fundamentally exist to exist. the money involved goes to keeping that open. People to go there to pay to consume there favorite acts, they go there to see there friends nervously stumble from shy attempts at their craft into blossomed, tightened artists. They go there because they are to young to go to a bar and want to be in a room with other humans. They go there to go there, to check it out, to see whats going on.

Mo, thank you for your article. It was really heartwarming to read and it shows people who are in this community that its getting recognized, that its organic and that people like you are working to represent it and shed good light on it. Its really great to see this featured.

Aaron go check your craigslist post, im sure someone has paced an offer on that "Like New Sunn Amp" thats gathering dust in your garage

Same as Raves.

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