Please also note that SCIENCE is also strongly for the notion of human-influenced climate change. That's clearly foolish, though, because SCIENCE, right?
Holy crap, someone put hydrogen in my AIR!
This must mean it's safe to put fluoride in our water.
I'm glad we fended off chemicals in our water. We need to keep things purHOLY CRAP SOMEONE PUT IODINE IN MY DAMN SALT
It's unbelievable that The Mercury can't bring themselves to eat some crow and deliver a neutral review of the results. Somehow you have to find a way to continue to insinuate NO-voters are uneducated whack-a-doodles who rely on "junk science" and conspiracy to form their opinions. Oh and the never ending accusation that opposition voters don't care about the children, yet if that were the case then why the hell did the Children's Levy pass so overwhelmingly...could it be that anti-fluoride voters were in support of that?
Let alone the failure to praise the amazing grass-root efforts made by CWP, where we actually saw people from opposite sides of the political spectrum come together and shatter the stalemate divide plaguing our society today. There's indeed an important lesson to be learned here.
And for you to pretend that you didn't benefit financially from your PRO stance is insulting as well. Aside from the accusations of bribery and the like, the money you made off of site-visit advertising had to set some records for your marketing department. Crafting pieces obviously written to stir up the emotions, thus resulting in 400+ comment threads....cha-ching!
As for Steve Novick, what's really "sad" is what has already become of him. I've never witnessed a faster sell-out of a political official and I'll forever regret volunteering for his Senatorial campaign. It's just creepy how quickly he's slipped into Randy Leonard's (fore)skin and has taken on his bravado attitude. I guess that will happen when the political elite of this city basically hand you a Commissioner's seat. The hilarity in it all is he has yet to be given any real responsibilities from the mayor, but he's sure as hell wasting no time sending all the wrong signals. Yes, another round for Steve...his eyes aren't quite swollen shut yet!
So boo-fucking-hoo-hoo you pseudo-progressives. I guess The Mercury staff will just have to continue to take the suppository approach to ensure your fluoride intake. Just be careful not to stick the toothpaste tube too deep, it can get slippery.
In 11 years all the children and colored people will be dead from lack of fluoride. Its science. Fluoride will get voted down again by the remaining white, privileged people who were saved by their tin-foil hats.
I can't believe all these junk science people who believe that studying ingested fluoride is somehow different than topical fluoride. That somehow a substance that kills bacteria in your mouth will kill bacteria in your stomach. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ORGANS!!!!
This is top shelf SCIENCE.
How can you possibly think that the CDC's 10,000 studies are ALL WRONG. Impossible! I've not read or seen any of them but they have a statistic on their website and we all know where there is a statistic there are 10,000 studies behind it! That's Newtons law of totally NOT junk science.
Get with SCIENCE you hippy morons!
And there's the ADA. That stands for SCIENCE IS US ( in Latin or something ).
Uhg!! It just makes me soooo ANGRYYYYY! This junk "science". URRRRHRGGHGH.
Don't you people know that in SCIENCE fluoride is NOT a chemical. By definition a chemical is NOT fluoride. And even if it was by displacement theory chlorine being a chemical negates any thing that starts with an F from being categorized in the chemical family. It's on the periodic table, in the footnotes.
I agree with Blabby and Aestro that a good chunk of the 'No' voters were liberals (or, to be less diplomatic, "hippie airheads") -- probably most of them. But i also believe that a significant number of them were solid right-wingers. And conservative libertarians. College grads and high school drop-outs; kooks and sanes; poor and rich; commies and capitalists; clean-cuts and mohawks.
Unlike almost any other topic up for vote/public debate in memory, BOTH sides of this issue brought together an amazingly diverse group of people into the same bed(s). Many of us woke up this morning next to quite an unfamiliar partner, hurriedly grabbed our clothes, scribbled down a fake phone number, gave a quick peck, and uttered an insincere "Call me!" as we walked (ran) out the door.
How fascinating it would be to read a poll about how the 'No' voters feel about vaccines, Obama, global warming, chem-trails, homeopathy, national healthcare, gay marriage, GMO crops, etc. I bet the results would be ALL OVER THE PLACE.
Remember: the Mercury isn't anything if not liberal. And i bet i'm not the only one here who sides with the Mercury on every single one of the above topics, with fluoridation being the only point of dissension. Weird.
You betray your ignorance by making such statements. Your name-calling and accusations also reveal a cynicism usually indicative of narrow-minded right-wingers. Do not charge your fellow Liberals (also very well educated and discerning consumers of information--read: we know how to read scientific, peer-reviewed primary sources of information) as your inferiors. Doing so does not reflect well on your claim to legitimacy. And I'll gladly jab anyone in the eye who tries to say I'm not a Liberal!
The Politics of Fear have won the day again, against reason.
AAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH SHUT UP!
You're absolutely right, Anon. We should've had naked people.
i'm really confused. shouldn't people be bare assed while on a toilet?
i for one like sitting on a toilet for a while when shitting at work. i check my email, facebook, instagram and i,anonymous.
fuck this. if I,A is the homeowner, let them grow their grass as high as they like and let the over-stepping neighbour fume.
This is so typical of the irrationality rampant in the media recently. You mix together your vehement, anti-corporate, blind distrust with a practical measure designed to help people. You are the new ultra-conservative zealot, blinded by ideology, immune to information and progress. You despise religious right wingers for their ideology? I despite them for their irrationality. You are just as bad.
Pathetic level of debate and attitude in this election. Should I move from Portland? Yes, I will (for other reasons, but this makes is easier). and before you say good-- and at risk of immodesty: it's not good that people who care, are open-minded, want to do the right thing, look you in the eye when you talk, and are liberal are moving far away happily, from zealots like you.
I bet 100/1 hardly anyone from the Merc or other papers or the pro side bothered to take time to see where & who fluoridation chemicals came from. How about Mosaic. A company whose CEO just received a 22% bonus & supports GMO's. Or how about Simplot, a supplier for Salem. They're working on GMO potatoes because Monsanto failed to do so. They have been fined in the PNW & Oregon for pollution. And then we have Univar. A corp that proudly gets & distributes toxic chemicals to Dow, DuPont, Syngenta, Bayer, BASF, and so many other big-pharma & big agri-biz corps.
Guess "justice" and "equity" means land and community destroying phosphate mining & lining CEO's pockets so they can grow GMO's and pollute towns & cities at the same time. That's where fluoridation chemicals come from and I'm glad Portland can now get to working on solutions that are based on real advocacy & real solutions, instead of gagging on Simplots toxic scrote.
It's also a trailer that makes it look suspiciously like every other non-Hollywood feature filmed here. And it doesn't seem like a lot of people will hate it because it's about hipsters; they'll hate it because it's about boring people.
Ah, I'll probs go see it...
When a woman fucks a celebrity/athlete then cries rape, 99% of the time it's bullshit. Kobe went through the same thing, then they found 7 different guys semen on her. SEVEN. Jose is just an easy target because he's already unlikeable and brainless turds like Paul float whichever the way the wind blows it.
Thirteen you say? Seems appropriate given much of your material
Good piece, but not surprising to me. It is shockingly easy to trick the state, or buy fake greed cards, ID's, DHS cards etc. This person should be receiving mental help, not that it would prevent this but there are clear issues
I'm curious to know why it is Clean Water Portland and many, many Portlanders that makes these type of accusations, yet no one in the media seems to do the same?
"Opponents accused them of manufacturing a crisis, and colluding with state workers to withhold the study."
Are tears fluoridated?
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