News Jan 29, 2009 at 4:00 am

But Can Adams Get Portland Back to Normal?

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A grown man cheating on his wife with an 18 yr old woman would garner next to NO media coverage. A catholic priest raping an 8 yr old would be COMPLETELY IGNORED. But Sam Adams having CONSENTUAL sex with an 18 yr old GROWN MAN is somehow a 2 week front page sensation. What gives?!
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Btw,

I'd just like to add that i think it's pretty damned cowardly & two-faced how many in the Gay community, including all of JUST OUT's editorial board, would soo avidly turn there backs on Adams & demanding he resign, damn traitors!
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Yeah real cowardly, what with putting their names on the editorial and expressing an opinion that might jeopardize their dwindling readership.

What gives is he is an elected leader that lied to get elected. It directly impacts those who trusted him.

The example man you speak of an older man with a 17/18 year old woman I believe would elicit press and scandal. I don't believe it would be ignored, especially with the questionable age difference.

Religion is fairly offlimits in this country. You cannot attack religion. Sad, but true.
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So he lies about having sex with an 18-yr-old-man,.. so what?! If some sleazy reporter asked Adams about the condition of his prostate & he lied about that, i wouldn't hold THAT against Adams either! Because what on Earth would it have to do with the business of running a major city?

I also find it quite telling that THIS warrents a 2-week sensation, but the random murders of two teenagers in dt Portland barely regesters on the news reel.

Gosh, if only Bush were held to the same scrutiny as Sam Adams was, we could've gotten rid of that p.o.s. years ago!
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DamosA - It's not about sex. It's not about consenting adults. It's not about Sam's personal life.

It is about repeatedly lying. Lying to close co-workers and public officials and getting them to lie for you so you could win an election. Lying and smearing an accuser and competitor in a public election, causing a bruise to that competitors reputation and thus one less choice for voters.
It is about coaching a teenager to lie for you- someone you claimed on record to be "mentor" to, and it is about sexual contact with a 17 year old minor in a bathroom at City Hall while on the job - something any other staff person would be seriously reprimanded for, if not fired.

It is about potentially hiring unqualified staff over other more qualified people based on patronage, friendships and close connections to your office. It's about a staff that can not lead in your absence, thus showing even more incompetency.

It is about not showing up to work, not showing up to important Council Meetings, hiding, disappearing and not being available to your staff without any word while business of the City is in chaos. It is about putting your own emotions and feelings about City work. It is about not standing up immediately and issuing a statement after 2 people were murdered nightclub in downtown Portland, something any other mayor in the US would have done.

It is about lack of leadership, eroding trust within your own bureaus and constituents, and lack of professionalism. It is about hypocrisy and lack of ethics.

It is not about consensual sex between adults or Sam's personal life.
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@ ExCityEmployee - YES! I voted for Sam, and couldn't care less about who or how many people he sleeps with, but his total lack of integrity renders him unsuited to be our mayor.
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You say it's not about sex, someone's personal sex life, whatever - that it was just the lying, but c'mon. This IS about Adam's sex life; that's what he was lying about in the 1st place. Everybody loves a good, messy scandle, right?
So i've gotta say, i'm just not feelin' all that uppity & rightous about it. And i question whether all the pho`outrage soo many people have been "expressing" is really all that sincere.
Maybe it's me - b/c i've only only been here for 3/half years maybe i'm not yet getting it. B/c folks in this city suuure do fine some silly things to get "outraged" about.

Just lemme know when Adams starts f#@king with people's money & lying about THAT. Until then, the economy's Hell & i'm too broke to give a damn about [another] politician lying about who he nailed more than a year ago.
Looks as though Sam Adams has assimilated well into Hetero-sexual society - he's proven he has flaws just like the REST of us. Ofcourse, if Gays were allowed to get married in this state, none of this would've ever happened.
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Ok DamosA,
How bout this?
How do we KNOW he didnt have sex with Beau until the kid was 18???
TRUST HIS WORD???
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"A grown man cheating on his wife with an 18 yr old woman would garner next to NO media coverage."

If he were the mayor, there would be plenty of coverage.

"A catholic priest raping an 8 yr old would be COMPLETELY IGNORED."

This was a prominent story for years and is still playing out across the country. It's in the media.
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Because based on what i've read/viewed in this story, whether this Beau guy was actually 18 when he [allegedly] has sex with Adams is in very little dispute. Obviously, most of us will never KNOW, but until it's been proven otherwise, i'll take Adams' word on it.
Besides, 17 is close enough - especially when the next b-day is up in just afew weeks. Might as damn well at that point.

Oh goodness, if only Sam were a catholic priest, EVERYONE would've left him alone!
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You've got to be kidding me! Sam is responsible for his actions and should be held accountable for them!. We shouldn't take blame for his moral and ethical failings, quit making excuses for bad behavior that's whats wrong with society today no one takes responsibility for their actions and everyone excuses it. Is this how our parents and their parents behaved , honestly everyone needs to look inside and be honest with yourself.
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DamosA,

So you are cool with the KATU story below in which someone comes forward and says that Sam lied (yet again) and *was* having sex with a 17 year-old?

http://www.katu.com/news/38733737.html

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As if KATU were a ligitimate News source, RIGHT!

And i'm all for people taking responsibility for their actions, & EVERYONE being held to account for what they do, no matter who they are. But that's my issue with all this. None of it is in porportion!
All this Adams story makes me think of, is ALL the politicians who've told waaay bigger lies & have gotten clean away with it & hardly a peep of protest from anyone about it. All the sex scandals that were faaar worse that hardly anyone made any noise over.

Once again, Adams had sex with another grown man. Yeah, he lied about it - big deal - move on. I somehow get the feeling that if Adams were straight & were caught embezzling funds years into his term, this wouldn't be as big a news story.
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Sam Adams is a power hungry prick with poor impulse control. He is responsible for his own undoing. It's not the media's fault, it's not Beau's fault, it's not Bob Ball's fault.

He has nobody to blame but himself.

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