At Christopher Comte: Or maybe instead of people dropping dead and it being covered up, there are just subtle, mostly unprovable things that happen, like increases in kidney disease, subtle IQ differences from silicofluorides increasing lead levels, increased thryroid problems, none of which are traceable to fluoride except if you both have the will and the resources to produce studies that look for them, and have a control group that now doesn't exist.
Roughly three-quarters of all Americans currently drink flouridated water, and the resulting health catastrophe has obviously been completely covered up by a conspiracy between the American Dental Association, The U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services, the United Nations and the Bilderbergs, because you NEVER HEAR ABOUT IT!!!
SERIOUSLY, GUYS! CONSPIRACY!!! IT'S THE ONLY EXPLANATION!!!
Yinzer V, wow...I have an actual copy of an actual INDEPENDENT chemical analysis done on the "Fluoridation Chemicals" used in Philomath, the same wonderful company that will be supplying the "Fluoridation Chemicals" for Portland. It is not a "supposed" report. It is the real deal. I will scan it and email it to anyone who would like to see it for themselves. Only INDEPENDENT testing can be trusted, everybody knows that. It would be the equivalent of "peer review" that your cronies are espousing over on the HKHP thread, which I got banned from for posting these very BASIC SCIENTIFIC FACTS. I can't believe how rude all you paid thugs are being on these social forums. And that Portlanders are actually falling for this crap. I guess that must be your strategy though, divide and conquer, eh?
No real data to show that Fluoride reduces cavity rates among low-income children in comparatively sized communities that fluoridate. Too many variables to skew the data, i.e. subsidy rates for pediatric dental care, ethnicity (diets high in sugar vs diets low in sugar) - sure the fluoridation opponents are whack, but why is the science all over the map? Why do some high-level studies disagree with CDC studies? CDC studies of other issues have been wrong. Common sense dictates when in doubt, avoid adding more substances, hence complexity to the problem. Begin with reducing substances first - for instance: sugar.
At Leaky 2.0 oz: (Circa 1957) Yeah, the FDA is trying to create birth defects by allowing Thalidomide.
Use your head.
Moral: Well-intentioned people are capable of making mistakes.
Yeah, the state of Oregon is trying to poison its inhabitants, alongside its Politicians, State workers, Government workers, children grandpa’s and police men, all at once.
Use your head.
Seattle has fluoride and we have motherfuckin' orcas. What do you got, Portland? Salmon? Fuck yo salmon! Our orcas eat them!
Orcas don't care. Shit, google them, look at those awesome teeth. How'd you get such awesome teeth, Mr. Orca? Or Mrs.! Or Mz.! Or just click-click-eee-eee! We are progressive up here, and you orcas can marry same sex orcas while smoking pot! So why are you so awesome?
Fluoride, that's why. Boom.
The mercury has been a total cia tool since they started. Let's all just ignore them THEY WILL GO AWAY. yay. loose your jobs. loose your ads!! pull ads from mercury. Watching ann ramano eat out of a dumpster will be Way more entertaining anyway
You're missing the point FLORIDE IS TOXIC. Poor people do brush their teeth. FLORIDE IS TOXIC. It was first used in the concentration camps because! It makes people dumb and a little angy. ALSO WATER SHOULD NOT HAVE INGREDIANTS.. TOO MUCH FLORIDE IS TOXIC? WELL THEN i HOPE I DONT drink 'too much water'.
Well the disappearing is because like, I can't be here all the time. Sorry about that. I know you miss my wit.
Things that won't pass in Oregon: weed, fluoride
Things that did: gay marriage ban
Super progressive, everybody! Good job!
At tcraighenry: As far as I can tell, you only post on here to snipe in one or two lines, then disappear for a while only to reappear and do the same thing. What substance are you providing? You can lol all you want, but you're the exact person who should look in the mirror.
So many new members just to comment on this "article". My favorite are the ones that are agreeing with one another's one and only comment. Probably totally not the same person with multiple accounts.
lol at the pro-fluoride camp supposedly being the ones that are name callers.
Israel to stop mandatory fluoridation of water within one year.
The Mercury is on the wrong side of history. The name calling pro-fluoride camp needs to take a look in the mirror.
Nice work. Cuts through the myths, conspiracies, half truths, and untruths. Let's hope common sense prevails. Well written. Good common sense article.
@Christina - you seriously are comparing a supposed sample of the undiluted fluoridation supplements with EPA standards for drinking water? (Only enough will be added to increase the fluoride content to 0.7 ppm, while the undiluted substance is ~40% H2SiF6 and fluoride ions.)
Just typical Clean Water Portland deception. 1.) That study should be made public, so the chain of custody and actual report can be studied; Clean Water Portland has a history of selective quoting of studies (especially the Grosjean/Choi Chinese study) to argue their point. 2.) Philomath's own water quality report shows levels of unwanted elements well within EPA standards, including no detectable arsenic. 3.) Clean Water Portland commenters on other boards have been quoting some analysis of a batch of H2SiF6 from 1990, which is irrelevant to the issue at hand; the fluoridation supplements that Portland will use will conform to American Water Works Association standards; standards that have been modified over the years, with the H2SiF6 standard last revised in 2011.
@Lewcifer Using rape as a simile to fluoride is uh, yeah.
At Dr. Selina: Treating the problem you describe with fluoride in the water is like prescribing caffeine in the water for habitual drunks. What we need to do instead is stop the problem at its source - advise them to stop giving their kids juice and soda. And if you don't, no amount of fluoride is going to fix the problem.
As a physician, a native of a city that fluoridated it's water, and a member of thebCareOregon board, I need to debunk some of these STUPID comments.. The most vunerable of our children are missing school because of tooth decay. When I see patients bring their 1 year old in with soda or juice drinks in the bottle, I talk to them about theirs kids teeth. A lot of people do not know better. Some if it is cultural. For instance, in the Black community, my community, babies as young as 3-4months are started on juice. Most of the physicians in Portland, who are white, do not know that. Cultural incompetence keeps them from better informing the parents. Fluoride would help these babies.
Let me put it to you like this. Better education now, means someone is less likely to rob Your house later. If the kid is missing weeks worth of school due to dental pain now, where are they going to be financially in ten years?
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