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Re: “The Sanest Arguments Against Fluoride...”
Congratulations to the "Whole Mercury Team" for using team work in being complete fuck ups. Are you sure not one of you could make the decision to label an obviously op-ed piece as so and then have the sack to sign your (....y'all?) name to it? I'm assuming some of you did get journalism degrees because it's quite clear that chemistry, biology and medicine aren't in the cards, apparently, for any of you. Only Ann Ramono gets a free dress day from the "Whole Team Mercury" bullshit, because she makes me laugh and has ovaries bigger than balls. The rest of you, sack the fuck up. If you're going to write something, put your name on it like a big boy. Beyond that, there's a tremendous amount of reading for you (...y'all? exactly how many are there of you?) to do on this subject.
Re: “The Sanest Arguments Against Fluoride...”
The city is quoted as saying that they intend to spend upwards of $500,000 to purchase fluorosilicic acid, the chemical used in water fluoridation. They have yet to say where they will be purchasing it from, but most of it comes from China nowadays.
I wonder how much cashola other municipalities across the country pay to fluoridate their water?
And what was that about a $5-7 million dollar treatment facility?
Of course other than that, there's no financial gain to be made. After all, think of the high cost of dental care that that the magical elixir fluoride helps prevent. So what if there's no conclusive evidence that water fluoridation actually does anything to prevent tooth decay?
But at least the phosphate fertilizer industry hasn't had to pay to dispose of their fluoride pollution, classified hazardous waste, in decades.
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Peer-reviewed studies have shown that LSD is an effective treatment for illnesses such as alcoholism, PTSD, etc. Many people suffering from such heavily debilitating conditions can't afford to purchase LSD or have difficulty getting access. Some of them end up in critical condition, even to the point of requiring emergency hospital visits and operations. So, in the name of humanitarian intervention and common decency, I propose we put LSD in our public water supply.
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Hey Christopher, wake up man! 99.9% of conspiracy theories are pure crap. They are stigmatized by the quality of the people making them and by usual foolish reasoning.
Conspiracy Theories are said to flourish in times of public mistrust...
Which obviously must be the case here for all these folks to think putting fluoride in the water is going to nefariously harm them.
Despite the advice of doctors and dentists.
Dentists putting money into this campaign with no financial gain to be made, and in fact, most likely to lose money eventually through better teeth in the populace.
Well, don't worry anti-fluoride folks - so the AMA and the ADA doesn't support you, you still have Jenny McCarthy on your side.
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If we put birth control in the drinking water we would have a lot fewer children with cavities.
Does that mean we should put birth control in the water supply?
Justifying the use of chemicals in our drinking water is FLAWED LOGIC.
We need FEWER additives to our drinking water, not more!
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WHY ARE MOST FOOD MARKETED TO CHILDREN LOADED WITH SUGAR & HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP?
WHY NOT FLOURIDATE CHOCOLATE MILK INSTEAD OF OUR TAP WATER?
I am glad I can afford a water filter.....
Re: “The Sanest Arguments Against Fluoride...”
"Some, like Portland dentist Jay Harris Levy, will speak eloquently—uninterrupted for many minutes—on a slew of studies and the mass toll they feel fluoride's having on society. But there's hardly a schism. These folks are in the vast, vast minority."
Why should being in the minority negate the legitimacy of his the argument? As Orwell said, "In a time of Universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act".
Fuck you, Mercury, for using such cheap tricks to spread propoganda at the expense of Portlanders. I though this beautiful city and your paper were safe havens for those who think outside the box- for those who don't just accept what they are told, because everyone else seems to be doing it. The rest of the US seems to flouridate their water, so that makes it right?
Fuck you. I would certainly pay much more in taxes for giving people in need free and qulality dental care if that's what this is really about.
And what's wrong with conspircay theories? Why is that so stigmatized? Is it really so stupid to look thoroughly and openly at all possibilities before deciding what seems credible? What makes you so trusting of what the Government says anyway?
Sounds like you were paid off.
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ugh the comments. hipsters just need something to complain about. life is just TOO PLEASANT!!!! go to africa and drink their all-natural water you hippie bastards.
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Well, just filled out my ballot and voted YES, though I am concerned that it may not pass with all the stupidity I'm reading here.
Hippies and Conspiracy Theorists Unite!
To include the dumb chick who thinks her masters in teaching and bachelor in english should impress me more than the reccomendation of the American Medical Assoc., the American Dental Assoc, or the vast majority of pediatricians throughout the country.
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Poorest piece of muckraking journalism I've ever fuckin' heard. Fuck you Mercury for printing an opinion under the guise of journalism.
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People can die from drinking too much water. WATER IS POISON. Vote to keep water out of the hands of children!
Also, we don't need libraries because kids have books for free at school. Besides, how much do libraries cost? We have other priorities? And who's profiting from this library thing? Corporate publishers.
It's just a conspiracy of the military-industrial complex! Vote NO on sanity!
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HA!
what the F mercury...? REALLY?
Pathetic "Journalism". For you to print a piece that is so one-sided is just masterbatory .... nothing but an opinion piece. In MY opinion my kids shouldn't have to ingest Fluoride every time they take a sip of water.... that ALONE is a valid enough reason to keep it out.
While so many places have fluoridated water so many others, ALL over the world (Germany, The Netherlands, Canada. etc, etc) have/ are taking it out. The argument FOR is nothing but misleading. Why don't you take high fructose corn syrup out of school lunches; how bout access to dental care; how bout education! fuck you for printing such an opinionated one-sided piece on such a loaded issue... pathetic.
The new title of this piece: "THE MERCURY'S BIGGEST FAILURE".
Re: “The Sanest Arguments Against Fluoride...”
CHARLES ELIOT PERKINS
The 'Perkins' story:
http://www.fluoridationfacts.com/education…
Harley Rivers Dickinson (An Australian Liberal MP) who raised the issue of fluoridation and its sinister implications in an "Address in Reply to the Governor's speech in Parliament." The 'Address' forms part of a document compiled by Ian E Stephens and is appropriately entitled the 'Dickinson Statement' ("the Statement"). The main thrust of the Address was as follows;-
"At the end of the Second World War, the United States Government sent Charles Eliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farben chemical plants in Germany. While there he was told of a scheme which had been worked out by them during the war and adopted by the German General Staff. This was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water. In this scheme sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotisizing a certain area of the brain and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. Both the Germans and the Russians added sodium fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners-of-war to make them stupid and docile." (Reference: Victorian Hansard of 12th August 1987). Also see Dr Phyllis Mullenix.
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Ha! Yinzer V is wrong, and perhaps a troll. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfgewAieQW4 Don't "medicate" our water supply. Vote NO on 26-151.
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VolvoGuy is wrong. Prozac's chemical formula is C17H18F3NO, which means that it contains 17 atoms of carbon, 18 atoms of hydrogen, 3 atoms of fluorine, and one atom each of nitrogen and oxygen.
All natural fluorine is F-19, so the three atoms of fluorine have a mass of 57. The fluoxetine molecule has a molecular mass of 309.33 g·mol−1. Do the math; it's much less than 94% fluorine.
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Prozac, whose scientific name is fluoxetine, is 94% fluoride. "Any person who drinks artificially fluoridated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person, mentally or physically". -Charles Eliot Perkins, prominent U.S. industrial chemist. NO on 26-151!
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96% of Europe does not add fluoride to its water, and Germany has banned fluoride all together. The Mercury is paid-for main-stream media cloaked in its "alternative" dressings.
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The Fluoridated toothpaste that the Mercury's staff uses has a warning printed right on the label. The warning reads that if a person accidentally swallows some they should call poison control. My Fluoride-Free toothpaste has no such warning. After reading their cover story I'll be living Portland Mercury-Free as well. Vote NO on 26-151; It's the sane human thing to do.
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@sethwoolley I like how in your opening paragraph you mention you didn't actually read the article. I didn't read your other paragraphs, let's hope you did a better job.
RSSGoing to Seattle?
Re: “The Sanest Arguments Against Fluoride...”
This Mercury "article" acknowledges that pro-fluoride tried/is trying to rig the vote, but then endorses it anyway? Why would they need to rig the vote if their information is true and valid? And why is there an ad for "premium whole house fluoride water filter" at the bottom of this page...oh yes because nobody wants to drink this stuff. Fluoridation and covering the reservoirs, letting Nestle build a bottling plants (which they'll succeed in doing if this passes because demand for bottled water will spike), is all leading to the eventual privatization of our water. Go ahead and add coal trains too to add to our toxic load. I sure wish somebody at the Mercury could crawl out of the old paradigm and into the new - drinking fluoridating water really doesn't do much for oral health, it all goes straight down the drain and into the environment with no effect on anybody - just a legal way around pollution laws. It will be a such a sad mistake if it happens.