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Comment Archives: stories: News

Re: “A Place to Go

When will breeders pick up their trash?

1 like, 5 dislikes
Posted by dlcoupe on 06/26/2014 at 7:17 AM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

Aikdio Vrs Baseball Bat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWy_4qrdm50

If these two nerds can do it, so can the police.

Posted by Dread Uptown on 06/25/2014 at 8:25 PM

Re: “The Two-Year Itch

Unless you know something I don't, your lead is wrong. The constitutionality of the arts tax is still currently under challenge in a case before the Oregon Court of Appeals: Wittemyer v. City of Portland, case number A154844. The case has been submitted, and a decision could come at any time. I filed an amicus brief in that case.

17 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by Jack Bogdanski on 06/25/2014 at 2:54 PM

Re: “Hall Monitor

You want a $15 minimum wage like Seattle? Does that mean we will be ridding ourselves of a super high income tax, like Seattle?

Posted by Spindles on 06/25/2014 at 12:27 PM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

"Mentally Unique" is that the new euphemism for violent thief? I don't usually back the cops on these things but the more I hear about this guy the more I think our city is better off without him.

4 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by econoline on 06/23/2014 at 4:37 PM

Re: “Toking with the Enemy

So two bongs make a fight

3 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Mr. Greener on 06/23/2014 at 2:37 PM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

Look... I think police officers have done some unacceptable things in the past. I also believe in the police being held accountable for any transgressions of the law. I'm a firm proponent of filming officers (In a way that is from a short distance and with respect! Cops are people and deserve to be treated like humans.) and having onboard recording devices on their person to protect the social contract we give them and expect.

We can easily bring up situations where an officer acted in a way that breaks that social contract and did harm to the force and innocent people. This situation was tragic and I don't think I should have been so cruel to his mother here. Donna, please accept my apologies. You lost a son and I am just sitting here behind a keyboard like an asshole. You deserved to be treated with more respect.

If this man came after a uniformed officer with a crowbar, and the officer fell down during said altercation, you have a person trained to respond with deadly force in a situation like that - put in a compromising position. I'm not an officer, I don't have officers in my family. I've done some reading, which doesn't mean anything. Cops in the US are trained that when you go for less than lethal force against assailants with lethal force, officers die. Painfully. Without good reason. Officers are put in very serious situations that ask them to make very quick decisions. Put yourself in the assailants position. You have officers with guns aimed at you, who probably don't know you. You've got a 3 foot crowbar in your hand and pointing the business end at them. If one fell down, what should you do? Drop that crowbar. Anything less puts you at serious risk of being killed. Mental illness is a very bad problem downtown. This man seems to have been mentally ill. He should have gotten more help from us. In that respect Portland failed this young man. But we did not swing that crowbar! He did. He is responsible for that.

He put himself in a very dangerous position against officers trained not to take chances. He was shot, and died. That officer probably doesn't like knowing he killed a human. Maybe the cop wanted to kill him, who knows. Either way, that officer was trained to do that when someone has a deadly weapon. I'm all for mental health assistance. I'm extremely in favor of officers being held responsible. I'm also in favor of citizens being held accountable for their actions.

9 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by boltaction on 06/21/2014 at 7:19 PM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

Yes, history of violence:

http://imgur.com/1xwyNh3

Screenshot of someone claiming he assaulted her. Pulled a knife and was found guilty, swung a crowbar at officers... need I go on? Don't shit all over this place like the guy was innocent. He was dangerous and got stupid at the wrong time and paid for it. Thankfully the officers are OK and didn't get seriously injured.

And for all those whining about the police here in Portland, Or: I bet none of you have stepped foot in parts of the south, let alone a 2nd or 3rd world country. This place is a fuckin' paradise. Do you know what cops do to people in south America? The police did their jobs and acted in the interest of their training and society that day.

9 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by boltaction on 06/21/2014 at 2:27 PM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

"Violent with a history of dangerous actions." That sounds more like a description of the Portland Police Bureau. You know, the one that is under federal supervision due to a history of abusing and murdering the homeless and people with mental disabilities. These attempts at character assassination of the victim by sociopathic pigs is appalling but predictable. It's how they always justify and get away with murder. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the cop apologists commenting here work for the police union.

2 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Robin Banks on 06/21/2014 at 12:21 PM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

@Donna, I am sorry that you lost a family member. That said, women have been coming up on Portland Police facebook wall and saying your son would terrorize and sexually harass them until they finally had to call the cops, then your son showed up at their door 7 years later looking for the same women (according to the victims friend) as if nothing happened. Justice was served when the officer fired his pistol. Your son was violent and had a history of dangerous actions. You even admitted that he flashed a knife at his own stepfather.

This idea that American society has about only speaking respectfully of the dead is bullshit. If someone did bad things in life that does not preclude them from criticism after their death. If you were really brave, Donna, you would admit that your son was responsible for his own death and reflect on his violent past. No one can tell you that you don't love your son unconditionally, which I absolutely respect, but we can tell you that your son was more than capable of bad things.

17 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by boltaction on 06/20/2014 at 11:46 AM

Re: “Hall Monitor

It's pretty close to fitting. The 2010 cost of living index for Portland was 111.3 (percent of national average) and Seattle's was 121.4, then our reasonable minimum wage would be $13.65. That's really not far off fifteen. (#'s from http://www.infoplease.com/business/economy…, taken from 2010 COLI)

CNN's cost of living calculator is currently claiming that someone making $50,000 in Portland would need only a $25 a year raise to get by in Seattle in the same style, which brings things a lot closer ($14.99 minimum wage). I don't know what year's numbers they are using. That seems unlikely even if everything including my rent has spiked lately.

1 like, 0 dislikes
Posted by xauen on 06/20/2014 at 11:05 AM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

Nick's Mom: I want to apologize on behalf of the ignorant insensitive commentors on here. peace to you and your family.

3 likes, 14 dislikes
Posted by READBOOKS on 06/20/2014 at 10:23 AM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

I am that parent Tacos, I do not want the police depts blood money like I said before. And we're not going to stop talking about my son, or the other mentally unique people who are shot unnecessarily by cops all over the USA. Justice For Nick.!!!

1 like, 13 dislikes
Posted by Donna Adams on 06/20/2014 at 6:45 AM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

Nicks mom again, NO I do not get in trouble with authority's or do my straight A college student son or my beautiful smart daughter. You still don't get it. Nick was at the wrong place at the wrong time. He was the one afraid he was going to get robbed. You need to shut your mouth about things , and people you know nothing about. Imrightyourwrong.

1 like, 14 dislikes
Posted by Donna Adams on 06/20/2014 at 6:37 AM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

Such a sad story for everyone involved, such a young boy. Heartbreaking. Just a thought! The Oregon lottery promised to put the money towards schools and roads, which has not happen. I believe we need to petition that money to opening up our mental hospitals again. I spent a few days downtown this week. It's so sad that the mentally ill are walking our streets... Alone! It's not fair. They need to be taken care of. Given the proper meds and supervision. When all the hospitals closed 15 years ago they were sent to the streets. It's not thier fault. I can guarantee I have a huge group of friends that would volunteer to help every day. They need help and this is coming from someone who takes meds everyday for thier mental disorders. It's a chemical problem in our brain. I'm thankful I have had family to keep me on track. Most of the transients out there do not. We need to help them... I always said if I won the lottery I'd build them a home and get them some help. People with mental illness need help. It's not there fault. They can be helped.. Hello Portland.. It's time!!!

5 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Janelle Shore on 06/19/2014 at 10:31 PM

Re: “Toking with the Enemy

At The Single Seed Centre, you can buy only one seed or as many as you like. Why not mix and match?

http://www.worldwide-marijuana-seeds.com/

0 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Dread Uptown on 06/19/2014 at 7:23 PM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

I want to see a parent whose child was killed by the police, who is willing to pursue a case against them. A parent who is willing to never stop talking about what happened, reminding the community that a grave error was made, and demand that the officer loses his badge at least and is prosecuted at best. But to do so, it appears the parent must be willing to not accept their hush money and not agree to the gag order that comes attached. The parent here has every right to pursue a settlement, and that is her choice to make. But when a monetary settlement is made, it is not talked about again publicly due to the terms of the settlement. I want to see a brave parent refuse their hush money and talk about it publicly. Maybe then a difference could be made. Maybe then the PPD will do something to redress their flawed and negligent actions towards people with mental health issues. We all have someone in our families with mental health issues. www.copblock.org, www.facebook.com/CopBlock, www.flexyourrights.org, www.facebook.com/FlexYourRights, http://www.policemisconduct.net

1 like, 12 dislikes
Posted by TacosNTequila on 06/19/2014 at 6:12 PM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

iziah whatever your name is. You yourself don't have any issues do you? Or do you always interact on the internet in ways that most people would get their ass kicked for in real life? (or ironically get into situations with the authorities).

12 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by i'mrightyourwrong on 06/19/2014 at 5:56 PM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

To answer question I never asked for help until Nicks friends put it on Facebook because I will pay for nicks service our gas etc out of my own money. The donations people made one is nicks brother Matt will probably only cover cost of flowers. I can't believe you would bitch at me at a time like this. Do you have a heart anywhere in your body??? And I'm not saying the officer shouldn't have protected himself. But some witnesses are now saying nick didnt have a crowbar , and even if he did with the one report saying There was around 20 police officers standing out there you would think one of them could have figured something out. Officer Brown also could have shot his arm leg anything instead of the chest. My son was not a retard. ASSHOLE!

5 likes, 12 dislikes
Posted by Donna Adams on 06/19/2014 at 5:55 PM

Re: “Before the Crowbar

Hey @boltaction. Researching private information on the deceased is pretty tasteless and completely irrelevant. Not too be disrespectful but your kind of a douchebag. Thats where the "TRAINING" Should kick in. taking a crowbar attack sounds like just another occupational hazard and not an excuse to shoot to kill. Also don't call people retarded. Fucktard.

4 likes, 18 dislikes
Posted by IZaiah TesseractStudios on 06/19/2014 at 2:57 PM

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