No, I don't believe all meds are a ploy of "the man". I do happen to notice though that profit motive and public health aren't always in concert, and that people wearing lab coats aren't always telling the truth, often because people looking to make $$ have misinformed them. (Look up Vioxx for a recent super-lethal example.)
But, even though lithium is good for some brain disorders doesn't mean you put it in the water for everyone at uncontrolled doses. Still, lithium can cause cognitive problems (hence: stupefying).
I'm not sure, but I believe the fluoride in those Chinese studies was naturally present.
The Indian study I linked earlier in the thread was I believe also from high naturally present fluoride.
nih.gov has a whole bunch of studies linking fluoride exposure to lower intelligence. I just posted one.
@tcraighenry: 1mg/L is approximately 1ppm. - http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/chemist…
The difference between (avg) .36 ppm and (avg) 2.47 ppm was a shocking 8 IQ points lower, and way more kids under 70 IQ. Can we please just stick to toothpaste and stop messing around with the idea of adulterating our water with this dangerous substance?
I love the argument that, "it's an element". Lithium is a similarly sized element, that also passes the blood-brain barrier and also has significant stupefying effects on the brain. Want some in your water?
Read the full report. There's not enough data for the scientists to draw conclusions about a safe level.
If it's a linear relationship between fluoride exposure and IQ (nobody's got enough data to say that it is or isn't), then the HKHS proposal is going to sacrifice about 2.5 IQ points from my cute little bug and everyone else's. (And maybe all of us adults too.)
Is it a linear relationship? Is .7 ppm a safe level for brain development? Are Mercury staff taking fluoride colonics?
More study is needed.
National Academy of Sciences acknowledges that fluoride in drinking water makes children less intelligent.
Read if you are able.
August.g, to an authoritarian, left or right, ethical arguments are immaterial.
"a little variation in patterns/grasping at straws/crazy might make you distinguishable"
I'm sorry, tcraighenry, that posting links to scientific papers at the National Institute of Health, showing links between fluoride exposure and lowered intelligence in children makes you think that I'm crazy.
But, perhaps there's some other way for you to satisfy your inner self-righteousness than by risking my 8 month old daughter?
Also, does anyone know whether it's safe to garden with fluoridated water, or are there vegetables that concentrate the fluoride to unsafe levels?
Actually, tcraighenry, I haven't. And, I only see one other comment about the links between fluoride exposure and children's lowered intelligence in this thread.
But, you're entitled to your wild-eyed conspiracy theory.
I'm curious though. What do you have against intelligent children?
Weird. I think the sanest argument against fluoridation of water is probably the one from this study among others on the National Institute of Health site that cites the links between fluoride exposure and lowered intelligence in children.
This study indicates that exposure to fluoride is associated with reduced intelligence in children. We have found a significant inverse relationship between intelligence and the water fluoride level, and intelligence and the urinary fluoride level....
It is very well established that fluoride can penetrate the blood brain barrier.[6–9,11,28] Also, it can pass through the placenta to the fetus,[6–9,11,29] and with subsequent continuous exposure to fluoride during childhood, it may have adverse effects on the developing brain, thereby causing decreased intelligence in children.
Or the argument that it's unethical to medicate people against their will.
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