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"B-but! There are CORPORATIONS! That SELL FLUORIDE!!!" Jesus.
Posted by jamdox]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 20:52:01 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by Maxims&Arrows]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 20:50:47 -0700 Portland Mercury
Never mind, I'm sick of humoring the willfully ignorant.
Posted by disastronaut]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 20:46:57 -0700 Portland Mercury
The point: it's NOT been a scientific debate in any way-- see the comment from your mixed flavor amigo above and from numerous other merc posts, radio shows, TV interviews, etc over the past 2 weeks.

The vote was an advancement of an emotional anti-authority, anti-government, pro-"purity" argument, and unashamedly so. It's a little too late to suggest science supports your claims of harm of proposed water fluoridation. (Many of your cronies don't care and have said as much.) So with this campaign, you clearly HAVE joined the ranks of the idealogues, and are NO different than the religious right in that way. Welcome to the bliss of ignorance.
Posted by Spoolo]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 20:29:15 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by Todd Mecklem]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 20:15:15 -0700 Portland Mercury Now get up off your ass and do something.
Posted by frankieb]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 20:08:58 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by Todd Mecklem]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 20:05:37 -0700 Portland Mercury Well, I hope that cop gave him 35 grand worth of punishment.
Posted by frankieb]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 20:00:06 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by buddy]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:52:32 -0700 Portland Mercury
Humans have been putting that extra carbon there because, in small part, at one time, science said that was safe.

True story, but yea totally unrelated to this whole save the children with fluoride thing. Because, ya know, children.
Posted by myscreennameistaken]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:49:44 -0700 Portland Mercury
But the minorities also came out against fluoride as well as the hippies and right-wingers.

Basically, the idiots from above and below who want to go back to the dark ages defeated the science-oriented middle class that made America great.

Again. The country can't take much more of this.
Posted by jamdox]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:47:48 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by sara lee]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:47:22 -0700 Portland Mercury
Analytically there's very little reason to put fluoride in our water. Our teeth our improving as much and better than many fluoridated places in the country. We don't have a city wide dental crisis and there are far better ways to spend time and money to target the groups that do. (translate and distribute educational material and info about access to free programs, toothpaste, toothbrushes, etc)

But the emotional appeal of saving the children and colored people is just too enticing. It's almost got a catholic style "wash your sins away with one simple vote YES" thing going on.

Plus languages are hard.
Posted by myscreennameistaken]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:39:26 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by jamdox]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:36:02 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by Sok]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:35:57 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by jamdox]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:34:22 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by TSW]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:29:18 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by Sok]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:25:57 -0700 Portland Mercury
This must mean it's safe to put fluoride in our water.

SCIENCE.
Posted by myscreennameistaken]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:22:40 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by Sok]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:16:48 -0700 Portland Mercury
Let alone the failure to praise the amazing grass-root efforts made by CWP, where we actually saw people from opposite sides of the political spectrum come together and shatter the stalemate divide plaguing our society today. There's indeed an important lesson to be learned here.

And for you to pretend that you didn't benefit financially from your PRO stance is insulting as well. Aside from the accusations of bribery and the like, the money you made off of site-visit advertising had to set some records for your marketing department. Crafting pieces obviously written to stir up the emotions, thus resulting in 400+ comment threads....cha-ching!

As for Steve Novick, what's really "sad" is what has already become of him. I've never witnessed a faster sell-out of a political official and I'll forever regret volunteering for his Senatorial campaign. It's just creepy how quickly he's slipped into Randy Leonard's (fore)skin and has taken on his bravado attitude. I guess that will happen when the political elite of this city basically hand you a Commissioner's seat. The hilarity in it all is he has yet to be given any real responsibilities from the mayor, but he's sure as hell wasting no time sending all the wrong signals. Yes, another round for Steve...his eyes aren't quite swollen shut yet!

So boo-fucking-hoo-hoo you pseudo-progressives. I guess The Mercury staff will just have to continue to take the suppository approach to ensure your fluoride intake. Just be careful not to stick the toothpaste tube too deep, it can get slippery.
Posted by zipitup]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:16:21 -0700 Portland Mercury
I can't believe all these junk science people who believe that studying ingested fluoride is somehow different than topical fluoride. That somehow a substance that kills bacteria in your mouth will kill bacteria in your stomach. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ORGANS!!!!

This is top shelf SCIENCE.

How can you possibly think that the CDC's 10,000 studies are ALL WRONG. Impossible! I've not read or seen any of them but they have a statistic on their website and we all know where there is a statistic there are 10,000 studies behind it! That's Newtons law of totally NOT junk science.

Get with SCIENCE you hippy morons!

And there's the ADA. That stands for SCIENCE IS US ( in Latin or something ).

Uhg!! It just makes me soooo ANGRYYYYY! This junk "science". URRRRHRGGHGH.

Don't you people know that in SCIENCE fluoride is NOT a chemical. By definition a chemical is NOT fluoride. And even if it was by displacement theory chlorine being a chemical negates any thing that starts with an F from being categorized in the chemical family. It's on the periodic table, in the footnotes.

SCIENCE.
Posted by myscreennameistaken]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:15:51 -0700 Portland Mercury