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      <![CDATA[I have a little hand-held digital recorder and have recorded unexplained voices while traipsing around old cemeteries. What the hell are they? Ghosts? Spirits long dead but feeling the need to communicate? Radio cross signals? TV audio transmissions? I have no idea.
        
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      <![CDATA[This article sucks. The picture at the top made it almost worth my time, though. Please come up with something better than Discovery-channel indulgence of hippie bullshit. Thanks. <3 Will
        
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      <![CDATA[First of all, this article asks the wrong question. It starts off on a faulty premise -- by assuming that supernatural phenomena exists and is the work of spirits, energy, aliens etc, you're already talking the wrong path to meaningful inquiry.<br>
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"Why Is Portland a Hotbed for Unexplained Phenomena?".<br>
How about "Why do so many people in Portland believe in the paranormal?".<br>
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I'd wager for the same reasons so many people here believe in homeopathy, horoscopes and fluoride as a conspiracy. I've been on ghost hunts. I've chased UFOs. There's a lot more psychology, sociology and flat-out misinterpretation that takes place under heightened circumstances. It's not ignorance by any stretch, but it does go hand in hand with a poor understanding of the scientific method. And to be clear -- waving an EMF meter around a graveyard does not automatically qualify as scientific. Been there, done that.<br>
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When you start at your conclusion and work backwards, the tendency is to cherry-pick data to support your conclusions and see patterns that aren't really there. That method of investigation is as sloppy as this piece of journalism.<br>
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As for collecting evidence: we live in an age where virtually everyone is armed with a camera phone. If there were so many convincing cases of hauntings, alien encounters, hell, BIGFOOT... we'd have some decent photos or video by now. Thus far, nothing has passed scientific scrutiny.<br>
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As the maxim goes, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. At such time that something convincing is submitted, tested and tested again, the scientific outlook will adapt. <br>
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Just because something is "unexplained" doesn't mean automatically make it "supernatural" in nature. That's a big jump, and one that has yet to be proven.
        
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      <![CDATA[THE NATIONAL UFO REPORTING CENTER  <br>
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REPORT A UFO<br>
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      <![CDATA[Art Bell/Mel's Hole, part 1 of 27 <br>
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Eastern Washington hole is shrouded in mystery<br>
By Denise Whitaker Published: Feb 7, 2012 <br>
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Eastern Washington hole is shrouded in mystery »Play Video<br>
ELLENSBURG, Wash. -- From Bigfoot to the disappearance of D.B. Cooper, the Pacific Northwest is full of mysteries. Another mystery buried deep in the hills of eastern Washington keeps resurfacing.<br>
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Ellensburg and its surrounding valleys and Manastash Ridge are beautiful in any season.<br>
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Some believe what lies beneath is a deep, dark hole with supernatural powers.<br>
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A man named Red Elk is one of the only people alive known to have ever seen the mysterious hole.<br>
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A Native American Shaman, or medicine man, Red Elk said his dad first showed him the hole in 1961.<br>
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"He said 'This is an endless hole,'" Red Elk said.<br>
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Red Elk's been back many times and said strange things happen every time he goes near it.<br>
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"People get it confused with what I call the devil's hole," he said.<br>
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Many locals claim to know about the hole, but it didn't become phenomena until 1997, when Mel Waters went on the Coast to Coast radio show with Art Bell.<br>
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"I brought the dogs with me." Waters said on the show. "They wouldn't go anywhere near the damn thing."<br>
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Waters said the hole had a three-foot stone wall around it.<br>
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It seemed bottomless to him, so he used an old shark fisherman's trick -- sending thousands of feet of fishing line down.<br>
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"What I did, was I sent down a roll of lifesavers," he said. "So when it hit water the lifesavers would dissolve."<br>
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But the lifesavers came back up whole -- no water -- so how deep was this hole?<br>
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Waters said he believed it descended miles into the earth and he heard strange stories about its powers.<br>
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"One guy claims that he threw his departed canine down into the hole," he said. "He swears the dog actually came back to him."<br>
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Red Elk said it was when Waters went public that the trouble began.<br>
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"Now I'm going public on this. And that could land me in a pile of junk," he said.<br>
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Red Elk claims the government has a secret base there.<br>
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"An underground base, a very small, underground base," he said.<br>
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That's how Red Elk explains the white boxes covering the area on some satellite images.<br>
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He also said he's seen "alien activity" in the area.<br>
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"A huge space craft, one, will appear and hover over the hole," he said.<br>
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That's what he said happens during Summer Solstice, when space men load and unload things at the hole before flying away.<br>
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At the Northwest Museum of Legends and Lore, Phil Lipson said he's heard the stories.<br>
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"Well, I believe there is a hole," Lipson said.<br>
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But Lipson's never seen the hole, even though he's led expeditions to find it.<br>
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"I think it's actually a true event just something that's never been totally uncovered," he said.<br>
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And to this day, no one's been able to find it, since that famous radio conversation.<br>
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Ellensburg Public Library Historian Milton Wagy said the story became a sensation after Waters went on the radio.<br>
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He said the phone rang off the hook with all kinds of stories about the hole -- some explainable -- some not.<br>
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He's still trying to solve the mystery of what happened to the library's file on Mel's Hole.<br>
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"Well it just disappeared, which lends itself to the mysteriousness of Mel's Hole," Wagy said. "Did Mel take it? Did it just kind of rise out of the locked file cabinet."You never know there might be a hole out there."<br>
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Now the question is, can anyone can find Mel's Hole and prove its existence?<br>
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<a href="http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Eastern-Washington-hole-shrouded-in-mystery-138913254.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Eastern&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[<br>
NASA has recently announced that they intend to make an announcement.  NASA won't say what that unspecified announcement will be about, except that it has something to do with what Curiosity rover has found on Mars.<br>
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This is similar to how when NASA made an announcement of a scheduled press conference on another undisclosed subject, which at the press conference,  turned out to be about a supposedly new life form, an arsenic eating bacteria, found in a polluted lake in the desert of California.  This press conference coincidentally, eclipsed the news of the return to Earth of the secret X-37B which has been reported "missing", lost in Space, on a nine month long Mission, by the Airforce.  A few days latter, scientists totally debunked NASASS' findings as fraudulent.  We still don't know shit about the X-37B.<br>
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Where oh where can I ever find the retractions?<br>
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http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/astrobiology_toxic_chemical.html<br>
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http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/02dec_monolake/<br>
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http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2010/12/this_paper_should_not_have_been_published.html<br>
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http://www.news.com.au/technology/us-air-forces-secret-space-shuttle-x-37b-goes-missing-again-rumours-of-possible-landing/story-e6frfro0-1225937846236<br>
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http://science.time.com/2012/11/20/a-mars-announcement-for-the-history-books/<br>
        
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      <![CDATA[If you think Orygun has peculier people, and a weird vibe, try North Bend, Washington. David Lynch filmed Twin Peaks there for good reason.   You go into the dinner from the show, and this customer comes up to you with a yellow plastic squeeze botte of mustard and squirts a yellow string out the nozzel at you.  Then when you like it, he goes out to his car and brings in a talking parot doll.<br>
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http://www.twedescafe.com/<br>
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Just a few weeks ago, a UFO was seen dropping a shitload of orrange orbs into Lake Sawyer, in Maple Valley.<br>
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http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2025&category=Environment
        
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      <![CDATA[in this day and age, we should be beyond this ridiculous nonsense. it's embarrassing
        
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      <![CDATA[Weed out the hobbyists as if it's a paid profession in the first place.  Now if you could just get rid of all those pesky contactees, you might just be able to maintain denial.
        
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      <![CDATA["You can't prove anything by manufacturing something," says Robinson. "Until we can weed out the hobbyist investigators, the future's a little cloudy." I disagree! that's how so many investigators join the field or as least become involved. That's like saying, "Sure we'll make Star Trek films, but we won't support the conventions!".
        
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      <![CDATA[If you have to ask, then you haven't been looking up.
        
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