http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/cops-on-campus/Content?oid=7739269 Comments On: Cops on Campus by Sarah Mirk en-us Copyright 2013 Portland Mercury. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Portland Mercury readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Portland Mercury. webmaster@portlandmercury.com (Portland Mercury Webmaster) Tue, 21 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Tue, 21 May 2013 05:45:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by Jacks Hit]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:54:20 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by DamosA]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:15:14 -0800 Portland Mercury
My first reaction to Cops on Campus and giving them guns was"what are they thinking?" Please let me explain before making a judgement. I have only my experience and the track record of PSU faculty's misuse of CPSO and other resources hysterically reacting to and in some cases abusing students who challenged their authority or in some manner "disrespected" them.
Having police with guns to replace security guards won't reduce crime,rather it will increase the abuse of authority by faculty who enlist the support of CPSO (much to their annoyance) and people like Michelle Toppe , every time they hysterically react to a student with the courage to challenge their abusive behavior. I know because the social work school did it to me. In retaliation for my filing a grievance and litigation several faculty went to Michelle Toppe and without any conduct code violations, or credible, rational threat,sent defamatory emails to all GSSW students and faculty instructing them to call CPSO if I was not only seen on campus but if anyone had appointments with me outside school in the community. I wasn't trespassed from campus and never threatened to harm anyone. They just wanted to isolated me from witnesses, defame me to discredit my testimony and avoid being accountable for violating my rights.Michelle Toppe assisted their efforts acting as a consultant.As the director of a nonprofit providing batterer intervention services my reputation was in serious jeopardy.
That aside,the students like the courageous young woman deserve a better run system with accountability and quality assurances outside the confines of the thickly insulated, non transparent walls of academia. I can see these armed police responding to ridiculous requests for "a security escort" from faculty, fearing retaliation because they know they did something wrong to a student while a real crime is happening elsewhere.Without very clear guidelines and protocols regarding what is or isn't a legitimate threat, police on campus won't make a difference and could be used to further the agendas of rogue, hysterical, angry faculty placing an unsuspecting student in harms way.
Posted by Phil Broyles]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:10:53 -0800 Portland Mercury

that is where you are WRONG, sir!
Posted by DamosA]]> Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:11:18 -0800 Portland Mercury
I have amazing clairvoyance to know if you've ever been a victim of a serious crime, most sane people would do anything to get that person off the street and would spur at least an investigation, even if you had negative views of the police or were skeptical.

Fortunately, most people aren't victims of serious crimes, so they can smugly maintain their view that we need "community watchers," or some other pacified anarchist bullshit, instead of actual armed and uniformed patrol men and women.

Having a gun pointed in your face is the best cure for smugness.

@disatronaught

Police presence does prevent crime. Do you think a person will rob a bank if there's 10 armed police officers outside of said bank? Doubtful.
Posted by ws]]> Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:38:07 -0800 Portland Mercury
And for the record: Cops don't prevent crime they respond to it.
Posted by disastronaut]]> Sun, 02 Dec 2012 12:03:47 -0800 Portland Mercury
If you were bludgeoned over the head and sexually assaulted at night in the dark, you'd call the police. Get over yourself, internet tough guy.
Posted by ws]]> Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:57:45 -0800 Portland Mercury

I'll have you know sir, that i myself have not called the pigs in years, and never attend to again! So yes, you're right - actions DO speak louder!
Posted by DamosA]]> Sun, 02 Dec 2012 10:18:06 -0800 Portland Mercury Thank You 'Dr.'...
Posted by frankieb]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:23:58 -0800 Portland Mercury
Talk is cheap, you know. Actions speak louder.
Posted by ws]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 10:45:57 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by DamosA]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 09:32:28 -0800 Portland Mercury have enjoyed reading Sarah Mirk's coverage

Joshua Dillen
Posted by reportster]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 08:36:20 -0800 Portland Mercury Thank you
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Posted by Bizworldusa Gcm]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 07:10:53 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by DamosA]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 00:50:36 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Tillamook Transplant]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:29:56 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Tillamook Transplant]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:10:17 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Tillamook Transplant]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:17:05 -0800 Portland Mercury Your theories about a PSU lying in order to build its own "Gestapo" are truly compelling. You and DamosA are right: everyone ought to be responsible for their own security and "pack heat" (merely typing that phrase feels totally sweet) -- just like the Old West!
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Posted by Tillamook Transplant]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:13:57 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Tillamook Transplant]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:06:07 -0800 Portland Mercury
A technical point: You're wrong when you say that, "The legislature can't legislate away it's own authority." The delegation of legislative authority has been a regular feature of the federal government since the 1820s. That's what every "regulation" is. It's the executive branch exercising the legislative power delegated to it by Congress. The same is true at the state level here in Oregon. As for the example you describe of a senator deciding to take the day off and install his cousin, you're right that he couldn't do that on his own. However, if the Senate voted to establish an internal procedure which allowed a senator to appoint a temporary proxy, I think that might be allowed. I doubt that it's been tried, so it's hard to say, but each chamber of the Assembly is allowed to establish it's own rules of procedure, and this may be within that Constitutional limit.

If you're curious, the Government Printing Office has this website:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collection…

There you will find many thousands of pages of the executive branch exercising delegated legislative authority.

Also, this is a pretty good summary of the bounds of federal legislative delegation:

http://law.onecle.com/constitution/article…

They will have all of the citations and research that I don't have the time to put in to a comment on the Mercury.

Again, I know that this is mostly related to the federal government. That's just because it's easier to find on short notice. Delegation in the State of Oregon follows similar rules, established over a similar timeline.


(Everyone else: Please don't assume that because I only wrote about this one technical point that I endorse everything else in Theodora's comments. I do not. I only had time to write about this one thing. Theodora has a lot of crazy in those posts, and it would take a lot of time to fully unpack all of it.)
Posted by Torgo]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:23:55 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Tillamook Transplant]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:36:52 -0800 Portland Mercury
Students, likewise, ought to pack heat. Fuck the school rules. PSU operates under the legal veneer of the State Legislature having legislated their authority to the state system of higher education. This means that school rules have the full force and effect of law. Except that's bullshit. The legislature can't legislate away it's own authority. A state senator can't say that he doesn't feel like going to work today, so his cousin is going to take his place, for instance. The problem is, that the people don't hold government accountable for anything.
Posted by Tillamook Transplant]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:12:51 -0800 Portland Mercury
Why does PSU need it's own police force? The PPD is already right downtown. The County has plenty of deputies right downtown. PSU is a state university. The state already has it's own police force. The only reason for the PSU Safety Patrollers to carry guns is ego. However, the PSU president might like to have a Gestapo which reports directly to him.


Posted by Tillamook Transplant]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:55:59 -0800 Portland Mercury