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Why aren't you doing the Vegan Week? Review some vegan restaurants or something.
DO IT! IT'LL BE AWESOME!
#moremeatforme
But, sure, if you don't like killing animals, I can see going vegetarian. I go for a week or two without meat every couple months or so, to save money, and it's a fine way to live. But veganism is just cruel. If you don't milk cows, they end up in terrible pain, with swollen, sometimes infected udders. Whether you like it or not, we've evolved a symbiotic relationship with milk cows. What are we supposed to do—just release them all to the Great Plains to duke it out with the buffalo? Slaughter them en masse? Build some sort of enormous zoo?
That said, Nick Zukin's vegan month has been interesting to watch. Maybe you should give it a try.
http://www.portlandfood.org/index.php?show…
I'm all about Michael Pollan's seven words to eat by: "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly veggies." The right attitude should be to connect to smaller, local farms and eat less meat, not cut it out of your diet altogether. If it's a health issue, too much soy is just as bad if not worse than too much meat (there's been a number of independent studies done on this) and honestly anything in excess is going to be bad for you.
Go try the vegan thing for a while PAC but do us a favor and stay true to those who aren't self-righteous pricks with hidden eating disorders. Stupid vegans.
Of the people I've known that have gone vegan, all are now eating meat again. The vegetarians are still mostly vegetarians.
You think desert tribes would last for one week without animal protein? Not every climate is amenable to big fluffy veggies and unlimited amounts of cheap soy products motored in from all parts of the world.
Dead goats can, and do, save nations.
I've been vegan for fourteen years, and I honestly couldn't give half a shit if somebody wants to eat animals--I don't think it's "wrong" or "unnatural," just that the way we're doing it in America is generally beyond repair and that it's simplest and most affordable to just abstain than to try to seek out non-antibiotics-and-corn-based meat. But there are countless ways to contribute to the betterment of mankind, and if food ethics isn't for you, that's fine with me and 99% of us horrible vegans. For every schmuck whose misguided priorities lead him to shout like a psychopath outside of the fur shop by my house instead of doing some good for somebody, there are hundreds of vegans who just want to enjoy the food they enjoy, want to do a little good, and find veganism a reasonably simple, maintainable way of living ethically--but for whom it's a personal thing, not a religious crusade. Do what you want, I'll do what I want, and fortunately in this town there's room for both and everything in between. Surely there are more important things to rail against than some people who don't eat just what you eat, right?
"Vegans do good, but entirely miss the point. The problem isn't with animal slaughter, it's with how we raise and slaughter animals."
Annie you miss the point. Try Vegan Week PDX not Try Vegan Week Desert. Secondly the problem for me is animal slaughter, I live in Portland. I have access to food that does not require massive amounts of wasted water/grain and even better does not require the suffering and murder of animals. We don't need to raise and slaughter anything to survive in this climate/culture. The choice of compassion is fruits,grains and vegetables.
A nation could be saved by humanely raising and slaughtering human children in human veal incubators as well. You don't have to make that choice living here. You don't have to eat animals. You can always choose compassion over killing it's up to you. The whole point of Try Vegan Week is not to force people. It's to help them choose compassion if it's in their hearts.
if you can't find it in your heart to choose a less violent diet, we can't do anything about it.
-David Agranoff/ Try Vegan PDX.
Sure animals are innocent but they're also yummy.
TAGE SAVAGE
Of course capitalism produces unnecessary suffering trying to slaughter as many animals as possible in a workday, but that doesn’t mean that the basic practice of eating meat should be eliminated. To think that bees are somehow suffering laboriously in their slave task of producing honey for us is absurd. It would be better to rebel against the industrialized production of food in general or the unsustainable nature of capitalistic affairs, but not against eating anything that has something to do with an animal. I’m pretty sure that if Bessie the family cow was milked in your barn a few times a week it would actually result in a net positive for the cow regarding its ‘utility calculus’, and not the other way around. You are doing the cow a favor, it’s udder hurts, please milk it...and if you object to drinking the milk, then throw it out on the ground and feed the animals that will gladly oblige to following their nature as intended much better than you seem able to do.
Try Vegan PDX, while welcoming to all, was created for those who already understand some of the reasons living vegan can be such a positive thing, and are struggling with the next-step questions, such as, "Can I do it?" "Does it have to be all or nothing? (No!)/Could I just try vegetarian first? (Yes!)" "Is it expensive, difficult, inconvenient...?" "What do I order at the steakhouse in the midwest?" They help pair the curious with the experienced - both of whom are much more diverse groups than I might have assumed before I participated last year.
I encourage anyone who's curious and understands the difference between debate and attack, to check out this group or NW Veg.