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I think we need an ordinance against Tie related continuity errors in videos made by Warren Jimenez.
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From the article: "The plan designates six to eight feet of sidewalks as a "pedestrian zone" where people using the sidewalk not as "pedestrians" could be slapped with a $250 fine. The ordinance defines "pedestrian" as "a person must be on foot to be able to accommodate people with disabilities as well as other sidewalk users."

So that means that cyclists can't ride on the sidewalk, yes? Thank Dog.
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The plan should be to make new sidewalks out of recycled tires. http://www.rubbersidewalks.com/

Then all the walkers and whonot will have a bounce in their step! And the homeless peops can sleep on a sorta cushy surface!

Vote for me, ROM.
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correct! cyclists are not allowed to ride on sidewalks DOWNTOWN (can't find right now the streets they used to define 'downtown'). Those that do, suck. But I'd like to remind you that it isn't "cyclists vs. pedestrians" or "Vancouver vs. Portland" or any of the multitude of "VS's" that exist...rather, it's douchebags vs the rest of us.
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Jackattack,
Cyclists are currently banned from riding on sidewalks downtown. I don't think this plan would affect that law at all.

http://www.stc-law.com/sidewalk.htm
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SMirk and others,
yes, that is mostly* correct. you are not allowed to ride your bike on the sidewalks of downtown... the exception being if you have taken the double secret class offered to PPI officers... they are allowed to ride their bikes on the sidewalk because they have completed this class... next time you are at the downtown precinct, ask them when the next bike class is for PPI...
thanks
Patrick
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as for the ordinance, as someone who was involved directly in the last "fun", its pretty much rehash of the last law with a few zingers in thought process from the one before that. care to guess what both of those have in common? they are no longer on the books due to not being enforceable...
thanks
Patrick
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Wow thanks for the info McAngryPants (best screenname evAr, btw) and Sarah.

I don't have a problem with cyclists, McAngryPants. I am one, during about 25% of my travels. But I'm mostly a pedestrian and while walking my dogs downtown I can't tell you what a problem some of the cyclists on the sidewalk pose, and when I've confronted them about it here or there they're usually pretty shitty about it.

I'm all pro-biking community though so please don't take this as a slight toward them. I have a big issue with shitty cops but I don't slight all cops as a whole, either. ;)
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What's wrong with sitting on a sidewalk? Who would most likely be persecuted by this ordinance other than crusties and transients? I doubt someone with a freshly obtained saks fifth ave bag (soon to be extinct in portand) sitting within the 6ft zone would get much of a telling off. I call discrimination.
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@Biconditional - I swear I don't care about this ordinance either way...but in your example the person with the Saks bag is unlikely to be sitting there hour after hour, right? You're right, they probably won't enforce this on someone tying their shoe or making a phone call...but if that same person spread out her things and laid out for the afternoon, she'd probably draw some inquiries, right?
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Biconditional- the same argument could be made for any ordinance, but I'm willing to guess that you're not suggesting we remove all of them.

As Reymont said, the ordinance would be there to help solve problems. So if someone were bottlenecking pedestrian traffic, there would be an enforceable rule to solve the problem. We all jaywalk, usually without problems, but on occasions where people are stepping in front of cars and blocking traffic (happens often) it's nice to have the jaywalking laws in place.
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I get ya brother *hugs and slinks away at the same time*
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Portland, Or has neglected all of its citizens for tooo long! I guess If this new Sit & Lie law drafted by Federal law for People with Disabilities. I guess the homeless wheelchair citizens of Portland can set up a class action federal lawsuit against the city and state for inaccessible and dangerous street corner ramps that are still not in place after the ADA passed law over 20 yrs. ago? Make some homeless people rich on city ADA F**kups! Some new ones have been built in Sellwood, but many thousands of corners still have not been put in place nor blind sound controls and are dangerous street corners!(bicyclists are to give pedestrians right-of-way on all sidewalks)

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