Another Gang Shooting; Adams' Gun Laws Still Being Vetted


Here are some compelling arguments:

The killers have already broken dozens of laws
Making more laws will not change that or stop criminals from breaking them.
Gang banging murderers do not care about stupid curfews and after-the-fact penalties if they're caught.
Would the mayor prefer they used legally obtained guns?

Portland's ineptitude in dealing with gang issues is truly something to marvel at, especially considering the millions that have been spent (read: wasted) on the effort. Pretty much up until the very moment that you actually kill a rival gang member, they are going to treat you as a "victim" of gang culture and lavish you with all the social program bounties that being an idiot in Oregon affords you....and after, apparently they are going to try and blame it, somehow, on the gun.

Pro Tip: Criminalize gang membership you geniuses.
On the count of 3 let's all sing together:

'Stand By Your Sam'

For a real laugh look at his interview on KGW where his solution is for people to turn in Gang members. For a guy who uses fear and intimidation, you would think he would know how effective this is.
Dudes rubbing drain cleaner or acid on your rivals face is much more macho than being a pussy and shooting at them.
Would any of the new laws have stopped this shooting? Or would they just make Adams feel better?
Adams actually has one good proposal in there. I can see the logic for mandatory reporting of a lost or stolen gun. The rest is splooge for the men's room (where Sam does some of his best work).
I have never more wholeheartedly agreed with D about anything.
@D the beauty of a curfew is it turns just being out after dark and black a reasonable excuse for the cops to stop and search someone. Who needs civil liberties?
I love these comments. Thank you Blogtown for being smrter than other news sites.

If I see Sam in the streets, I promise I will point out that "Hey, you know? Murder is *already* illegal! We probably don't need, like, a NEW law...."

I will report any retort.
To the clown who was talking greasy on - ChronicIllness......It's one of the the cousins of Andre Payton, Marsean Ivory. If a 19y/o can't get in a club, it's obvious you're blind to the world, or YOU were always denied entry and that’s probably an issue that still bothers you. I PRAY you made GOOD GRADES in school with your previous comments. I went to Ockley Green, so I know Portland is nothing to play with. You know the way of the world: You must protect you and yours. I know you get robbed, just how gangsta you gonna get?(Have you been robbed?, know how it feel? you get even? Honestly?, I do.) Or, chronic, get this: take the "Bitch-Nigga" route: take it as a loss, say "fuck it" and be a man and re-buy everything? "You just have to be willing to get tough with your kid"? It's Apparent you don't know one member of My Family. You need to ask around then, we known. Could you find the strength to battle what you read/watched about my Family? What are YOU’RE flaws.(You weren't popular, nor did you have "hoes", late bloomer perhaps?) We love tough, I REALLY wonder if you as a man/woman could handle it. We were taught right from wrong. Put in our place when needed to, just ask Bitch! If U got that much heart, but you're not concerned with this, you're in cyber space, yapping to whoever thinks your opinion is word. Im the black sheep, so whatever you type, won't affect me one bit. Reply with your educated babble, thats what you do. If you do your research, it will prove true. "It takes guts to swallow your pride and walk away from a bad situation and most gang members are way too chicken-s*** to do that. They're more concerned with how they are perceived, which is why they waste so much time and energy trying to appear "hard".You read the shit, my fam had TOO much GOOD going for him. Tell me how to get out of this beef? Illness, you're still living, you must have a 1UP somewhere? How DID you handle Andre's situation? Reply here:_________________.Have you ever hung out with someone who knows gang members, and those gang members treat that person like a person? No red/blue. Just a mutual respect among two people, or is that unheard of? Thats me! I did it all thru school, and college! PARKHILL, DENVER, CO ALL DAY. Come through, ill prove it. I know ALL kinds of "Gang members", and they ALL knew my momz would kick they ass if that gang shit "Blessed her porch". I'm here, guilty by association(guess what side, chron?), and I don't see your logic. You sound like Oprah. If anything, I bet you hate Snoop Dogg with all his talk huh? How many "bangers " do you know that WILL have your back? Not the homie you traded nintendo games with in 6th grade, He'll hop out the window like on South Central(Not the movie). Because he was a bitch. Andre's "associates" DID NOT DEFINE WHO HE WAS AS A PERSON. You did. You’re supposed to JUDGE SOMEONE by the way the TREAT you! My Fam went by himself, who are you gonna be hiding behind when your time comes? He protected himself, where were you @ superman? You sound like an "Out-of-work" gang member, on that activist bullshit. And if you have kids, THEY'RE ALL SOFT!! what?? speak ur beef. A mother WILL not put up with any bullshit, she doesn't want to deal with, so "Parents aren't supposed to be friends. They're supposed to be parents and sometimes that means saying NO. My mom did it." is for the birds. (Where ur kidz @?)I know my cousin, she didn’t raise any dumb children, i.e.: you. I hope your fam really explained the "B.asic I.nstructions" to you growing up, because ours did(Hope U up on THAT game). We’re very well seasoned, Lawry’s Bitch! My Fam spends their time in a productive manner, we're not you. Just WHAT BULLSHIT did you bring your mother? Care to elaborate? Ever had ENOUGH HEART to tell her some of the shit you've done? If not, Yall's relationship isn't THAT close, and you full of shit, hands down. A mother is without her son for life and you "voicing your opinion". You that bored? Why don't you call me. And to Benny86: You must have been duckin’ lately huh? Aderialine racing and shit huh?(Happens sometime, smash out at 6 from now on and you’ll be fine). We are not easily persuaded in my family. My homies choices don’t determine MY future. If my homie decides to “Choose sides”, that’s HIS choice. It’s shitty that you ex out the fact we still have what you don’t accept as a friendship, who I know ain’t your fucking’ business, Benny. We just might know the Same muthafuckas. Who u know, pimpin? What do you know? So how does that make you better than my fam? Reply here:_________________. It’s nice to see that you BOTH appear to have fell out the pussy , left the hospital,and reported to some job. Yappn. Do some research with your big ass opinions, cause you seem like the type that jus “wanna know” what happened. Get off the net and ask if your opinionated. Basically: if what u see caught your attention in any way, don’t reply on the net, ring the number above, and we can chat. Thats my cousin, I’m gonna miss him dearly like the rest of the family he belongs to. I pray i never “blog” about one of YOUR family members. But I will if I feel the need to, hope YOUR FAMILY got THEIR shit together!! Take it easy. MARSEAN IVORY