News Nov 10, 2010 at 9:32 am

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GOOD MORNING. I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS STUFF, BUT ISN'T TOBACCO SUBSIDIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT - POSSIBLY EVEN BY THE FDA (OR DEPT OF AGRICULTURE)? WHY THE MIXED MESSAGE?
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WOW! I'VE NEVER SMOKED, AND SURE - IT'D BE BETTER IF NO ONE DID, YEAH? BUT THOSE LABELS ARE PRETTY HARD CORE! EITHER MAKE IT ILLEGAL OR DON'T, BUT IF IT'S STILL LEGAL WHY DO THIS?

THOSE THREE AREN'T EVEN CLOSE TO THE WORST - CHECK OUT THE AUTOPSY SHOT:
http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/Labelin…

50% OF THE LABEL HAS TO BE COVERED IN PICTURES OF DEAD PEOPLE? SERIOUSLY?
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@ REYMONT: SERIOUSLY, IT NEEDS TO BE, AND I'M PISSED THAT THEY PASSED ON THE ONES OF ROTTING TEETH AND SIMILAR. THESE LABELS ARE PROVEN TO REDUCE SMOKING, WHICH REDUCES THE AMOUNT TAXPAYERS END UP SPENDING ON HEALTHCARE FOR DUM DUMS.

I SAY ALL THIS AS SOMEONE WHO SMOKED FOR OVER A DECADE, AND WHO STILL SMOKES SOCIALLY.

DON'T YOU THINK THIS IS BETTER THAN THE GOVT SAYING "ALL BAD THINGS ARE ILLEGAL?" YOU CAN STILL CHOOSE TO SMOKE, BUT AT LEAST YOU'RE MAKING A MORE INFORMED DECISION ABOUT YOUR OWN HEALTH, AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROBABLY GOING TO END UP PAYING FOR YOUR CARE AT SOME POINT GET A LITTLE SAY IN IT TOO.

WIN FRIGGIN WIN. THEY SHOULD BE MORE HARDCORE THOUGH, LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES.
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THESE FDA SMOKING WARNINGS ARE LIKE THE CANADIAN WARNINGS! YAY! GAY MARRIAGE IS NEXT!

SMOKING IS THE ONE VICE THAT I THINK SHOULD BE CONTINUALLY MARGINALIZED. SIMPLY BECAUSE THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS TO ME ARE SO OBVIOUS. I HATE BEING AROUND CIGARETTE SMOKE - SO GROSS!
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GOOD MORNING, STEVE! GOOD MORNING, ROM! GOOD MORNING, REYMONT! GOOD MORNING, CC! GOOD MORNING, BLOGTOWN!

HOW IS EVERYONE?!?

I 100% DISAGREE WITH ANY ATTEMPT TO MAKE CIGARETTES ILLEGAL. I 100% AGREE WITH ATTEMPTS TO RAISE THE PRICE OF A PACK OF CIGARETTES TO $20 WITH TAXES. YOU WANT TO DO STUPID THINGS TO YOUR BODY? PAY HEALTH CARE COSTS TO THE STATE. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A SOCIALIST OR A LIBERTARIAN PHILOSOPHY.

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GOOD MORNING, ALL! THE LINK TO THE DAISY DUKES STORY GOES TO THE GM STORY AGAIN. I WANT TO READ ABOUT DAISY DUKES!

@GRAHAM: BUT ISN'T THAT MAINLY A BLUE-COLLAR TAX? I DON'T THINK I CAN AGREE WITH THE "IF I WANT TO DO STUPID THINGS TO MY BODY I HAVE TO PAY THE STATE" PHILOSOPHY, BECAUSE I'M NOT EXPECTING THE STATE TO TAKE CARE OF ME. PLUS IT SEEMS LIKE A SLIPPERY SLOPE DOWN TO THE "YOU WANT TO HAVE FREEDOM TO DO THING $X THEN PAY THE STATE". NOT THAT I SMOKE, THOUGH.

BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THE "MORE GOVERNMENT MICROMANAGEMENT OF OUR LIVES" STANCE ISN'T LIBERTARIAN.
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GOOD MORNING. WILL ALCOHOL EVER CARRY SIMILAR WARNINGS? HOW ABOUT NUTRITION INFORMATION? HOW ABOUT AN IV?

CAN WE LEGALIZE POT ALREADY? OH, RIGHT, NEVERMIND.
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@TK.: THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU AND I ARE CURRENTLY SUBSIDIZING SMOKERS' HEALTH CARE COSTS WITH OUR TAXES. I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD MOVE THAT TAX BURDEN MORE ONTO THE SHOULDERS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUSING THEMSELVES THIS HARM. ISN'T THAT THE WHOLE LIBERTARIAN IDEAL? TO TAX US LESS AND MAKE THOSE USING THE SERVICES ACTUALLY PAY THE REAL COST?
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@GRAHAM: NICE IN THEORY, BUT THE GOV WILL JUST BE ALL "OMG NEW MONIES!!11!!" AND CREATE A BUNCH OF NEW PROGRAMS WITH IT THAT WILL ALL GO UNDERFUNDED WHEN PEOPLE QUIT SMOKING IN DROVES. AND NONE OF THE MONEY WILL ACTUALLY GO TO ANY SORT OF HEALTHCARE OFFSET BECAUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE GOVERNMENT FORESIGHT THAT GOES BEYOND THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE (UNPOSSIBLE).

MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST MAKE SMOKERS PUT $5 INTO A SAVINGS ACCOUNT FOR EVERY PACK THEY BUY, INSTEAD, AND THEY CAN PAY FOR THEIR OWN DAMN HEALTH CARE.
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OH HAI BLOGTOWN AND ALL YOU FRIENDLY PEOPLE. IM NOT SURE WHY BUT WHEN I TRY TO SEE THE GIRL IN DAISY DUKES I INSTEAD GET A GROUP OF UNDERAGE SCHOOLGIRLS DOING SOMETING IN A CAR. MY PO DOESNT LIKE IT WHEN I SEE STUFF LIKE THAT SO CAN YOU FIX THE LINK PLEASE? K THX.
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I HATE THE "BLUE COLLAR TAX" ARGUMENT.

1. THERE'S NO RULE THAT THE LESS WELL OFF ARE REQUIRED TO SMOKE.

2. NOBODY HAS A RIGHT TO CHEAP PRODUCTS. A GENERAL NATIONAL FEELING TO THE CONTRARY IS WHAT MAKES OUR COUNTRY SUPER FUCKED UP.

3. IF YOU ENGAGE IN AN ACTIVITY THAT IMPOSES SIGNIFICANT SOCIAL COSTS ON EVERYONE ELSE, YOU SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO HELP BEAR THAT COST. THAT'S JUST PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
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GOOD MORNING WOOZLETOOZLES! I AM FOR ANYTHING WHICH WILL MAKE DANE QUIT SMOKING. I (USUALLY) LIKE HAVING HIM AROUND.
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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE! I'M SORRY I POSTED AN INCORRECT DAISY DUKES LINK. IT IS FIXED, AND TO MAKE FURTHER REPARATIONS, HERE IS A PICTURE OF ME DRESSED IN DAISY DUKES.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_q5b_j6sHfZk/SLH0…
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@COLIN @10:01 - I DON'T KNOW! IT'S A VERY INTERESTING QUESTION! BUT IT FEELS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A CLEAR LINE BETWEEN THINGS THAT ARE ILLEGAL AND THINGS THAT ARE NOT, AND THINGS THAT ARE NOT ILLEGAL SHOULDN'T BE MADE TO DRESS UP IN FUNNY CLOTHES.

ARE CIGARETTES DOING SOMETHING WRONG? THEN MAKE THAT ILLEGAL! IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN MAKING THEM PUT PICTURES OF DEAD PEOPLE ON THEIR LABEL SEEMS KIND OF ARBITRARY. WHY NOT ALCOHOL? WHY NOT SUGAR OR LARD? IT JUST SEEMS AWFULLY...PERSONAL!
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@GRAHAM ET AL: SO NO ONES CARE THAT WHILE THE PEOPLE/GOV ARE SUBSIDIZING THE HEALTH CARE OF SICK SMOKERS, THE GOV IS ALSO SUBSIDIZING THE FARMING OF TOBACCO? OUR TAXES ARE PAYING TO GROW THIS STUFF (AND PAYING FOR OUR ABILITY TO PURCHASE IT AT A REASONABLE PRICE). ARE WE NOT OUTRAGED? IF THE FARMING WASN'T SUBSIDIZED, THEN THE PRICE OF A PACK WOULD GO UP, AND THE QUANTITIES AVAILABLE WOULD GO DOWN. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING POLICY, THEN WHY AREN'T WE STARTING HERE? IS IT NOT SEXY ENOUGH?
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@REYMONT: I AGREE WITH YOU ON ALCOHOL. FROM A SOCIETAL STANDPOINT, ALCOHOL IS ONE OF THE TWO MOST DANGEROUS DRUGS IN AMERICA (TOBACCO BEING THE OTHER). BUT AS WE'VE SEEN FROM VARIOUS FAILED NATIONAL POLICIES, PROHIBITION IS A FUCKING AWFUL IDEA CAUSING MUCH MORE HARM THAN THE SUBSTANCES IT'S TRYING TO BLOCKADE.
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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE! SMOKING CIGARETTES IS FUCKING STUPID...AND I MISS IT LIKE A DEAD FRIEND.

IMHO, WEARING DAISY DUKES SHOULD ONLY BE PUNISHABLE WITH DEATH IF ONE IS 'MUFFIN TOPPING' WHILST SPORTING THEM.
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@ROM: THE REASON WHY NO ONE BRINGS UP TOBACCO SUBSIDIES IS THAT FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THEY DON'T EXIST ANYMORE.

http://wiki.dickinson.edu/index.php/Tobacc…

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GOOD MORNING! SMOKING ROCKS, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE BOX SAYS.
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WEARING DAISY DUKES BEFORE PENTECOST SUNDAY *USED* TO BE PUNISHABLE BY DEATH, BUT THIS IS THE FRIGGING 21ST CENTURY, FOLKS! SPANKING WILL SUFFICE!
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SMOKING IS INDEED NICE SOMETIMES. IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DO IT, GREAT, AND IF THEY DO, THAT'S FINE TOO, AS LONG AS WHAT THEY PAY BEARS A RELATION TO THE SOCIETAL COSTS THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO.

AS FOR ALL THE "WHY DON'T WE DO THIS" OR "IT'S HYPOCRITICAL TO THAT," OR "SUPER ARBITRARY," WE ALL KNOW THAT POLITICS IS THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE. EVERY TENTACLE OF THE LEGISLATIVE/AGENCY PORTION OF GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO MARCH IN LOGICAL LOCKSTEP WITH EVERY OTHER SIMILAR TENTACLE.*

THE FDA TRYING TO SLOW TOBACCO SALES HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH USDA SUBSIDIZING TOBACCO GROWING. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU AND WISH THAT WE HAD A SYSTEM WHERE IT DID, BUT WE DON'T.

* JUDICIAL BRANCH DOES, HOWEVER.
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@GRAHAM. THANKS.
NOW OUR MONEY IS BEING SPEND TO BUY OUT THOSE FARMERS LOL. http://farm.ewg.org/progdetail.php?fips=00…
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@COLIN - I ALWAYS VOTE FOR THE TENTACLE PARTY.
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MAN, IT IS A GOOD THING I DON'T SMOKE "BRAND" CIGARETTES!

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