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Those cameras sure do malfunction at the oddest times...
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Why would anyone move to Cincinnati?
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Absolutely heartbreaking! I've lived in Portland five years now, but I grew up in Cincinnati and knew Bones off-and-on for 14 years. He was a colorful, lovable character. It sucks that the media keeps referencing his BAC. He wasn't driving, after all, and I doubt he was even very ambulatory, much less threatening. Where's the video? I smell cover-up.
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He'd lived here for a long time before moving there. He just recently moved back.
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There is a way to blame the Portland Police for this. I know there is.
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They could have used a tazer, then he would be alive right now !
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Even if he did pull out a knife, why aren't police officers better trained to deal with this in a non-lethal way?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Cincinnati_riots
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FYI, the article in the paper today says that the cruiser cam simply had not been turned on - it is automatic if the lights & siren are active, or can be turned on manually.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110421/NEWS01/104220355/

Local word (friend of a friend..) is that the details alleged in that article about circumstances before the shooting are wildly inaccurate.

RIP.
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Before he moved to Portland, he lived in Cincy for about a decade. He was in a couple of bands there--AMF and Shoot the Gift, and by all accounts was a pretty good, fun-loving dude. As for why he'd move back to Cincy, contrary to what Graham may realize, cool places exist outside of Multnomah County and Cincy actually is one of them. What a dick comment. The guy was just murdered by the Cincy Popo and that's your comment? Grow up.
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"cool places exist outside of Multnomah County and Cincy actually is one of them."

I can attest that the first part of that sentence is true, but the second part is laughably false. Cincinnati sucks worse than Cleveland, let's put it that way.
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@somebody else - Well, this sure looks fishy - I wonder if he even had a knife? But to answer your question: 'If he DID, and tried to use it, why aren't police trained to handle it without shooting the guy?'

It's because they are police, and not superheroes. They don't have to wrestle with armed people. If they did, even if they won 9 out of 10 fights...you'd still need to have a police funeral every 10 days. It's their job, their career - they have every right to live to 85, the same as you. That means getting their daily risk down really low, the same as you enjoy at your job.

But I repeat - this sounds like it was something awful, and not good police work...
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I'm really sorry for this person's friends and family - this must be a truly awful time for them. With that said:

@ cd, which details? The quotes from the person who called the police (Weller) said Hebert grabbed a knife in his home while on mushrooms and tried to rob him.

13 minutes later, he was shot dead. Is it that implausible that he brandished the knife at police? If that's true, how close should the cops have to allow him to get before they're allowed to defend themselves?

I'm no friend of the police, but the juvenile assumption that they're all psychopaths with itchy trigger fingers simply isn't borne out in reality (i.e. thousands and thousands of interactions with dangerous/intoxicated/mentally ill/angry people every day that don't end in violence).
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CC +1
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no friend of the police? i love how everyone here is going out of their way to point out that it was a tragedy that this man was shot, but still, that the police were just "doing their job." Police have non-lethal weapons at their disposal at all times, attached to their belts no less. You say they were just doing their job, and there's no evidence to the contrary, but why would the camera be off if they're supposed to have it on anytime they're either in pursuit or talking to a suspect for evidence to support THEIR cause. i didnt know this man, but i've known others in the same situation. rest in peace bones.
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Note to self: if someone points a gun at you and tells you to drop your knife, maybe it'd be best to just drop the knife rather than run at them with the knife.

Fun fact: A person with a knife standing 20 feet from you can reach you with the knife faster than you can draw a gun.
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Easier said than done with a BAC of .33 at 3 am. I'm pretty sure that whatever this guy did or didn't do with the knife wasn't a totally rational decision. I doubt the cops weren't aware of that either. It would be amazing to me that police officers can't tell when someone's barely conscious and intoxicated. It would have been nice if they had factored that in to their decision-making process before putting two holes in the guy. Then again, based on the firing officer's history with shooting citizens, such logical reasoning appears to be above his pay-grade, or abilities.
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mushrooms haven't been detected as of yet - those results are pending supposedly. People that drink have higher tolerance so .33 not too crazy. you also should figure he was walking his dog to while all this was going on, that takes into account one hand with the leash while being intoxicated the other in the pocket with the knife?? wish you guys could see the inconsistencies in the papers and the changing stories, wording. we have a noctoriously unpopular police dept. and the sgt that shot him has been trigger happy before has a record of it. why didn't the other three feel this was the course of action? why not tase, billy club, pepper spray. those that know him can never see him going after four cops with a knife. and remember also he had his dog alongside him. you think more of your actions when you have something your responsible for next to you, don't ya? he loved that dog. things just don't add up. i think the sgt. severely misinterpreted Bones actions of just the action of taking the knife out of his pocket and as a result Bones is dead. the knife was thrown i wonder if the throwing action is what made the officer think he was swinging. will we ever know. I hope someone speaks up and is believed. the messed up lack of surveilance, there is no excuse.
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I was in Cincinnati, in the heart of it for the Riots, I thought the city would change..

People move back to Cincinnati because it is the region you are from and there are a lot of people who love you there. There are a lot of people in Cincinnati who loved him.
There is serious doubt that he "lunged".. stumbled, we can all believe... but "lunged" No way... none of his friends believe it.
Bones may have had a habit of pissing in public at times but has had no history of violence. Some how the knife was thrown behind where Bones was standing and broke the front window of the house they were in front of. Why? still unknown. Don't know if it happened before or after the shots and who threw it
Fact: a man who barely weighs 120 pounds and is drunk couldn't manage to do anything while surrounded by armored men that would constitute anything that even sounded close to deadly.
Fact: The police are suppose to protect and serve - not just protect and serve drunk people who can't remember what arm they got "cut" in
Listen to the 911 call... http://news.cincinnati.com/assets/AB173379…
Fact: Cincinnati Police are afraid of anybody outside of the "norm"
Fact: Portland police have the SAME problem. Everywhere I go I've been telling people Bone's story... everywhere I go, People are sharing their stories of police violence. The problem is systemic.
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Just so all of you know, they have now showed that Dave was not even holding the knife when he was shot, it was 25 feet away. Also, he was sitting on the sidewalk when he was shot. The girl who was with him has a gag order not to speak and the guy who originally called the cops has skipped town. None of this makes sense and my friend is gone. The officer who shot him has killed two other people in his short career.
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Bones was complying with Officer Johnson's orders to stand, step towards him, and produce the knife when he was shot by Sergeant Mitchell, who had not heard the orders and took them as aggression. Mitchell was already being sued for repeatedly tazing an innocent and oblivious teen in the back of the neck on another burglary false alarm. Bones may have thrown the knife when he saw Officer Johnson panic: it was found 25 feet away. The Cincinnati Enquirer found that the police violated their training and procedures when they recklessly approached Bones, who they suspected of possessing a pirate sword. The homicide investigation report is riddled with inaccuracies and errors and simply served to exonerate the officers. The CPD has an ingrained culture of hostility to civil oversight.
www.friendsofBones.org

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