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When John Kitzhaber talks about a 'shifting paradigm', you got to wonder what else he's hiding... What it really is, is using public funds to pay off his friends and lovers. It's the same old shit from these crooked politicians, no matter what party they're in - funneling money to their friends and covering up their own sexual misdeeds. And at the same time Kitzhaber is playing politics and talking shit he's vilifying the 'average joe' It's a "war on sex", to quote Mama Kind!

In this new war on sex, which protects the wealthy and influential, Kitzhaber's latest Bill will further deny Oregonians without money of due process if accused of any sort of sex related crime in Oregon. Under Senate Bill 67, it would be crazy to accept a plea bargain, even if he or she might wish to accept a plea to protect his family, or to protect a child manipulated by a vindictive spouse or neighbor (which is very often the case, and which the corporate media and the police never report).

Governor John Kitzhaber's dirty plan under Senate Bill 67 to identify by name, face and general residence of the lowest "low risk" alleged sex offenders is seriously wrong, and a little sick once we learn why Kitzhaber is trying to destroy the lives of 15,000 people (mostly men -- 99%) in Oregon who are not considered to be a risk by trained, licensed treatment providers-

Remember it was John Kitzhaber who helped broker a deal about ten years ago to pay off Neil Goldschmidt's child rape victim. And while he and his friends kept quiet for twenty years to protect their friend, their party, and their political careers, he is erroneously now claiming that SB 67 needs to be implemented immediately upon his signing because of some perceived urgent threat to the public from "low risk" alleged sex offenders (Most of these citizens took plea bargains (and signed a contract with the State) under the belief that they would not be publicly humiliated, and would have a chance to eventually redeem their lives). But this is another example of a vindictive, self-righteous American governor who is using his power to target those who have fairly criticized the Governor's infidelity during his previous term and his personal role in covering up the sex crimes committed by his friend and fellow Democrat against a 13-year-old girl, Neil Goldschmidt.

What SB 67 is really about is a personal vendetta by the governor, Floyd Prozanski, Carolyn Tomai and their fellow Rats and Cons against a severely disabled man, who reported that his wife was having an affair in 2004 with one of Kitzhaber's judicial appointees, and reported that the judge had conspired with the cheating wife to have the man arrested and tortured in 2005 in Washington County's Isolation Bubble for allegedly touching the breast of his 10-year-old step-daughter (three years earlier) until he agreed to sign a plea bargain and become a registered sex offender (and permanently discredited). Even with a SOR (risk to re-offend) of "0", which is as low as possible, Kitzhaber and some of his friends are pushing this Bill through the legislature as part of their extraordinary ongoing vicious retaliation against a known whistle blower, who has been a real pain in Kitzhaber and Kulongoski's perverted, crooked ass's!
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What the fuck Whistle? Can't you at least attempt to stay on topic?
If others are like me, they too refuse to read your tooo-long off-topic rants.
But on topic, thanks for this little video that is made by a transportation expert and not by, say, a person who does graphics for computer games or anything.
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OK, I see the ideas here don't come from a computer game graphics guy....good (and no offense to Mr Boomhower)... but I see instead of one bridge we are seeing 3 more built, correct? And somehow there is sure not to be any problemswith locations of these bridges, like we have seen with the CRC or Sellwood Bridge designs, right? And all this will cost half the price?
Seems too good to be true. Seems alot more complicated at the same time too. I like the ideas about rail and shipping uses though.
But I'll bet there will be even more great ideas put forth by folks who simply object to a larger bridge than the one already there.
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3 more bridges will be built, but not a crapload of more highway. If we're trying to reduce congestion, it makes sense to offer more options for crossing.
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frankieb, the CRC is sold simple and you're buying it. As the video points out, the majority of the CRC is not the big simple bridge. The majority of money is spent on a massive expansion of freeway infrastructure so everyone can quickly get to the new bridge. I don't think you can comment on the relative complexity of CRC vs CSA until you've researched the plans of that freeway expansion. The CRC landing is a freeway problem not a bridge problem, to name just one point.

In other words, the CRC says: because the Esplanade is crowded in the summer, we should double its width. The CSA says: because the Esplanade causes conflicts between bike commuters and pedestrians, we should create an alternate bike pathway between SE and NE Portland. Which option is simpler?
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CSA's SimCity approach of building a bunch of bridges is almost convincing. However, their proposal is politically far-fetched. Building one interstate bridge is challenging enough, but somehow getting Oregonians and Washingtonians to agree on FOUR spans plus retrofitting the three existing spans in a complicated five-phase plan is unlikely. Frankly, I thought the phase 5 planned bridge was a joke (there's no way to restrict a bridge to 'local traffic').

Even more challenging is that Washington constituents will never agree to a new bridge that excludes commuting drivers. Washingtonians don't want rail or transit and will certainly not walk or bike across the river daily. Suburban commuters want to drive their SUVs to Portland.
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So, to fix the bottleneck that is the bridge and the surrounding freeway, including on/off ramps, they want to add more roadway....as well as a wider bridge.
Almost makes sense.
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Offer people an incentive to not make babies. Reduce the population and you reduce gobs of problems facing the world.
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I already wrote the following comment:

Ban trucks from the 205 and 405. Toll the 5 bridge just fix the alinement on the ship channel.

Put the light rail (yellow line) on the new 405 bridge next to the rail bridge leading into West Vancouver. Fix the alinement on the rail bridge for the ship channel.

Cheap and easy peazy.
Posted by Rosy on September 14, 2010 at 12:00 AM

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