In related news here in Beaverton a TriMet vehicle ran a very very red light(changed when they were at least 15 yards away) and almost killed a little girl on her bike. The reason it did'nt is because she was right next to me and I grabbed the back of her bike as soon as I saw the van was going to run the red. No cops on that one despite the fact that they troll the area for speeders ,drunks, mexicans, anyone they can ticket, etc. I would have to say that grabbing her bike freaked her out, but that Tri Met van wizzing by a couple feet from her face upset her more. Hey lets try to be safe...sorry I am still a little amped up