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Cynical as hell, but also a lucid description of what Althusser deemed the "Repressive State Apparatus" -- http://www.eng.fju.edu.tw/Literary_Criticism/marxism/althusser.html
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HE SAID TEN LAWS, BUT THE LIST ONLY GOES TO EIGHT. I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN RIPPED OFF.
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This is probably the best thing every posted on Blogtown. Seriously. Kudos to Mr. O'Connor. Sums up all of my thoughts about this rally.
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That's my lawyer.
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I think it's very important to take care of yourself but at the same time it's this kind of thing, well intentioned or not, that scares people away from trying to create real change and keeps the status quo comfortable.
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Agreed: Best thing ever on Blogtown (from a fellow lawyer). And here's the bottom line of the state of civil rights in America:

"Never forget that in this city a police officer can literally shoot you in the back with a rifle as you surrender and still get his paycheck for years."

FUCK THE PPB
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OCCUPY BLOGTOWN!
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"Real change"? You mean the kind that you're going to bring about by walking down the street chanting something? No.

This wasn't cynical; it was realistic. I applaud it.
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Brilliant!
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GREAT article. The only thing I would add: if you take any medications, please make sure a friend or family member who is not going to the protest has access to your meds and your current Rx form and can bring them to the jail. And you may be unable to take certain classes of medications even if you have a current prescription, like Valium, Klonopin, Ritalin et al.
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Clearly we need to be handing out ACLU cards to protesters as the public defenders in PDX are more interested in apathetic pandering.
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Too bad this harsh but true information had to end in legal advice to stay home. Thanks for encouraging people to NOT exercise what FEW rights (as you clearly well know) they have left. Lovely
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Anybody still believe in God?
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Well, I guess I'll skip it. It's always seemed like the organizers want confrontation with the cops, and I don't believe they even tried to work with the city. I don't know that it would have mattered, but they might have been able to plan a legal and effective protest and since they didn't even try, I can't justify sticking my neck out on this one. A shame.
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Morons. The second somebody steps up as an "organizer" or "leader", they have the ability to take those leaders down and disrupt the movement. Further, this isn't about an organization or leader or political party or... it is about every_single_American who isn't part of the 1% who has spun our country into massive debt and continues to determine OUR ECONOMIC POLICY for us. And since when are you supposed to "work with your oppressors" during civil unrest? It's great that the author is listing out all of the things that "could" happen, but the record shows that across the country, this has been mostly peaceful, outside of New York (where there haven't been any arrests since last weekend). Even still, there is always risk involved when such change needs to take place. Wake up people, get involved.
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Hahaha, hipsters hate jail.
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You're just scared. Go ahead sit at home and do nothing. That's why our country is going down the crapper, people who don't do anything to make a change. We're going to try and make a change just by saying "we exist". If you sit at home and write articles or whatever it is that you do, no one is going to care about that either. I only found this site because i was reading articles about the protest. People respond to action because it's real. If I get arrested, oh well, that's better than saying, "oh yeah i just stayed home and thought about it. Thought about the group's good intentions but decided not trying was better then trying at all". As soon as i get out of class at 1230 i'm riding my bike down to the waterfront to peacefully walk the streets and let my presence be known. It's about breaking the cycle of wrongs in our system and attempting to start something that's beneficial to the masses instead of the 1%.
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With Wm. Humphries's piece this makes two essays from relatively-successful white men working within the system advising people how to change the system. I think the protest is already working.
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so your basic conclusion is: don't do anything , it will never change, stay home and play video games cause otherwise you'll go to jail. wow, sounds like exactly what those in power want us to do! either you're so cynical (as you say) that you've forgotten the flow of history, and that people have made change within the context of much worse police repression, or you are actually an agent of the ruling class trying to keep us at home, depressed and distracted. either way, if everyone takes your attitude, you are right; nothing will change.
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Screw you buddy, if people need to protest something they certainly don't need your input on the possible ramifications. Some things are bigger than personal injury, jailing, or not smoking your pot. There is no time for rational thought when it's time for change, people need to stop rethinking things to the point of inaction and act on their real impressions. Don't give yourself time to justify inaction. If people out there will burn themselves for peace, you would think a few bruises, a face full of mace, and a horse trampling would be welcome alternatives. This whole article represents the bullshit people live today as a so called "life". If I have to consider legal and physical assaults over the proper way of life and order this country and its workers deserve to have then I am a PUSSY and I don't give a shit about anyone but MYSELF.
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Darn. I think all this kills my plan to have shamed the arresting officers with my poignant reenactment of Charleton Heston's "Damn you! you blew it up!" from the foot of the half-submerged Statue of Liberty. I was totally going to do that at the foot of the Battleship Oregon Memorial on the Waterfront.

Thanks for the information -- very helpful!

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It's "with regard" not "with regards." I would hope that a lawyer would know that.
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Nice post!

Also, nominating #22 for the 2011 Nobel Prize in Pedantry.
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Now sign here... and here... initial here... any pets? Oh and check here... don't worry, just a few more pages and some credit checks and you'll be out expressing your constitutional rights in no time!

So, where were we... oh yes. Check any that apply here.

and here...
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"There is no time for rational thought when it's time for change." Oof.

Hey, for some people, there's no time for rational thought at all!
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So, your advice is to shut up, stay at home and swallow whatever crap they feed us? Underneath your "practical" and admittedly informative advice, is a frightening message. Good thing the pilgrims didn't listen to talk like this. Or Harvey Milk. Or MLK. This is a cynical creed, imploring us to take what comes our way (even a beating) just.... well, "just because". Have you looked at your savings account lately? We are the 99% and they are going unpunished for pillaging the wealth of this country while shipping our young and poor off to the Middle East to die for their profit margins. It's about the OIL! And aside from the occasional Madoff example there is widespread theft and pollution and your advice is to stay on the sidewalk with empty pockets and say "Yes sir, may I have another" with a half-wit smile on our faces while our future Social Security ( Hope u enjoyed it Grandpa!) goes up in smoke while the ultra rich by bigger yachts? Thanks but no thanks.
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This advice sounds like its about rabid dogs rather than so called human peace officers. "Dont look them in the eye it makes them mad?" I would almost believe that he is only saying this to incite further anger however chris was once my public defender, I was forced to throw the deal back repeatedly as he would roll over for the DA and obviously anyone else with any authority position. His advice to me was to take it up the ass which sounds much like his advice today. If only he could have given that advice to our forefathers before the war with the english,perhaps now we wouldnt be dealing with these pesky democracy issues at all.
I trully hope that Chris has said these things out of helpless anger.
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I notice a similar theme in these unregistered comments, I just can't put my finger on it.
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play x-box? yeah, that's a good one. i'm not saying protests are going to change much, but it's a process and in that process everything counts. doing nothing is what makes the problem pile up and grow bigger. fear is what this country developed as the strongest tool for controlling masses, and it's the worst enemy of progress. don't immediately dismiss any of the tools for fighting for the better system, because you honestly don't have so much options.
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So apparently effective protesting these days equals:
- Getting your Starbucks pre-march
- Ignoring the "You must make a purchase sign to use the restroom" sign in the local coffee shops and then using the restroom anyway (screw you, Capitalism!)
- Standing around and incessantly checking your Smart Phone for Twitter/Facebook/FourSquare updates
- Checking into the FourSquare location for the protest

Go. America. Sigh.
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that does just about sum it up - we are no longer free, if we ever were... however, i'd like to remind everyone, every where of one not so small thing. Many unarmed people may in fact die at the hands of tyrants, but no slave will stay a slave forever.

My choices? Starve to death, frozen and cold, quietly on the streets or stand up and call it as i see it with my last breath? Don't Tread On Me! When i put down my 'sword' and picked up my 'pen', i made my choice. I will stand. I will continue to speak. Come what may...

did you really think that 'we' didn't *know* these things? do you really think that you can kill and/or jail *us* all? do you not understand, that although my weapon of choice is this pc, there are some of us that are prepared for the coming war? - will you tear down My America in order to keep things the way that they are?
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'Twould seem that "freedom of speech" these days comes at a steep price --- too steep for an old fart like me. But it's really gratifying to see that the 20-somethings have finally emerged from their collective coma! The revolution is now theirs: GODSPEED!
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Really, really sad. Connor, I can't say anything you wrote is incorrect, but it is 100% wrong. You are burned out. I suggest it's time to wrap up your career as a Public Defender and move on. The apathy, cynicism and overall attitude conveyed in your writing is closely similar to what I see and hear from my Republican big firm corporate lawyer acquintances. I think you'll find plenty of like-minded company in that field. The minimal economic benefits of your current job, the protections afforded to you by your union (and the fact unions exist at all), and that a "middle class" even exists in this country (albeit shrinking daily) are the direct result of men and women who fought and bled for these benefits and protections - men and women who understood that real change does NOT happen until the corporate elites and the political elites who serve them have a REAL and visceral fear that THEIR privileges and well-being will be lost or diminished, and that their official titles and bank accounts will not in fact insulate them from the diminishment and suffering experienced by the majority. This fear is not generated from government approved "protest villages" or Facebook petitions. It comes from choking the hubs of commerce , by clogging the streets with bodies, and by afflicting the CEOs and executives with discomfort and confrontation in their places of work, their homes, and their country clubs.
Your suggestion for affecting social change is what - maybe somebody else will take care of it for us? Don't protest anything, ever, because you might get a misdemeanor conviction on your record? Yep, yer right - better stay home with the 'ol X-Box and hope it all gets better on its own.
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Chris O' Connor,

With all due respect, and although your legal advice is sound, advising people to "Stay home. Play some X-box." is about the saddest piece of advice that could come out of anyone's mouth. My family is full of lawyers, all of whom sought the profession out to make the world a better place and spent their life in pursuit of that goal as both public prosecutors and human rights advocates. What you recommend is apathy, complacency, and a disregard for what this country used to represent. Apparently you believe the legal system is a failure or you might recommend those who are protesting instead obtain law degrees and fight the system from within. But as I'm sure you know, that is simply idealism not based in reality...The legal system is flawed beyond repair. The political system is flawed beyond hope catering to only the richest Americans and corporations. The only hope Americans have is in democracy, our sheer numbers, and an ability to overwhelm a system that systematically disregards the common good. In this sense, the only power we have are these "futile" protests. If those protests fail to force change, eventually America will collapse.

This country has a short history and there is no guarantee that the United States will exist for another 5, 10, 20, or even 100 years. The collapse of Rome was brought about by many reasons similar to the problems we are facing today: over-extending its military obligations, a lack of financial management within the government, arbitrary and oppressive taxation, a general malaise among the population, an economy based on slave labor precluding a middle class with buying power, and the tendency to loot resources rather than produce anything new... Urban areas became depopulated and many citizens moved to the country and practiced subsistance agriculture instead of the specialized trades they practiced within the cities (sound familiar?). Eventually the monetary economy collapsed and the Empire followed suit after the Empire was slowly fragmented into smaller units that addressed the interests of the people within communities (the start of Feudalism in Europe).

If the people's needs are not addressed and oppression continues the way you describe, the United States will fail and your admission to the State Bar will be used for toilet paper when a new social order immerges. I hope for your sake you use your education and wonderful knowledge of the law to change the system for the better instead of encouraging apathy and silence that in the end will destroy the United States as it was initially conceived.

Of the people, by the people, and for the people-

Ryland Bouchard
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Clearly some of you do not sense that Mr. O'Connor's tongue is firmly planted in his cheek. If you think this article is discouraging protest and encouraging people to stay at home, then you just don't get it.
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Here is a great example of someone who would rather you stay home and hopes of him not having actually do his job.
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Jesus Christ you indymedia dickholes need to take a joke, accept earnest, realistic, free professional advice and GTFO.
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What would Malcolm X say to this junk? Probably something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn0vHMlavTc
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I propose OccupyChile's #babybackribsbbqsauce
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There are far more effective ways to facilitate desired change than to stink up a city park, sidewalk, or bridge with a gaggle of unwashed, disorganized, aimless persons. Those who cannot discern between a constructive effort and masochism will simply support the next round of proposed increases in taxes due to the ostensible lack of officers and jail space. You want to make a difference? The first and most important step, is to use your brain (if you have not already destroyed its most important centers with controlled substances). Those who have criticised Chris' warnings here as advocacy for apathy, have only demonstrated their own ineptitude, and that they will surely be among the lazy hoard of unthinking masses contributing nothing to a cause which they will be completely unable to delineate.
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I read "As many people of color, the homeless, and generally poor folks in our town have found out…" and quickly noticed your intended audience. May I make a suggestion and ask that you rename this article "DEAR MIDDLE CLASS HONKIES WITH SMARTPHONES" so the rest of us can skip this post altogether?
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Really?
I was just down there. Why did the Portland Police send a liaison to the protest? I, in fact, said hi and smiled at many of the officers down there. I believe this blog post is an attempt to incite violence and indignation within Portlanders. I believe this article is counter productive and only serves to frustrate people who may not be completely familiar with the Occupy protest.
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What a horrible indictment of the police, the city, American democracy, and the abject and broken spirit of the down and out author.
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Dear Chris:

If this was your attempt at tongue-in-cheek humor, not laughing. Maybe I lost my funny bone along with 40% of my retirement back in October 2008 or when my company cut my hours back to less than part-time status and then took away my health care two months ago. Or, maybe I lost it when the landlord not only raised my rent but decided I must also pay utilities...I could go on but you obviously don't get it.

If, on the other hand, this was an attempt to scare people away from coming out today, it didn't work on this 59 year-old woman. Fear mongers only galvanize me to stand up and call their bluff.

Oh, btw, it was a lovely day. Full of good will, call and response, music, nodding police officers and most importantly, the sharing of personal stories among people of all ages and circumstances and all walks of life. Now, that's solidarity.... but you obviously don't get that either.
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Thank you Chris.

Good job PDX.

One people, with Liberty and Justice for all... Each and every one.
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I was a student during the 1965 through 1970's sit-ins and demonstrations against the war and against unequal civil rights. Some of my friends did that, I didn't.
I have always regretted it. Sure it was painful for those who were arrested, but this is painful on a spiritual level for me.
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Here are examples of the peaceful relationship between cops & protesters earlier today (well, yesterday):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0mPvHYQTPM
http://twitter.com/#!/Vanadia/status/12207…
Ha!
Don't get me wrong, I'm willing to believe that if what you were saying wasn't completely tongue-in-cheek, it was some valid legal advice to privileged stoners who have no other grasp of Occupy Portland than that it's where all the cool, liberal kids are going. However, there was a diverse group of people there, including grown adults who don't like to fuck with cops and don't constantly get stoned and look up synonyms for "the man" on their iphones. It was 6,000+ strong w/ no arrests as of last night, all trying to let, if nothing else, their presence be heard, since for many it seems their voices never are.
Let's just try to be proud for once. Even twitter seems marginally happy that our mayor walked with us for a short while.
There are other cities that weren't so lucky. Need I mention the violence in NYC?
Seattle's mayor posted this earlier tonight, however, if anybody wanted to feel a little more proud of the pacific NW:
http://mayormcginn.seattle.gov/update-on-o…
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The Policeman and fireman and other first responders are more empathetic to these national protests than any other acts of civil disobedience that have previously divided them from those that they'd be paid to rescue or arrest. Because they are just as likely to be getting the shaft from the the soulless wealthy marauders looking down at us with privileged smirks as the rest of us that wonder where the hell our retirement was flushed to.
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From a long time Oregonian, the Portland Police and all who reign over them are infamous for unwarranted murder and brutality. They need brought down at some point after we bring down Wall St and change the election process. This has to be first, then, the rest will follow.
Endurance and Protection to all of you.
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He is correct. The police can and will do what they want, and they will get away with it. People will be arrested for little or no reason, and it will hurt. The police will not be held accountable. However, the inference he draws from these facts is incorrect. These things do not mean people should give up and sit at home and play xbox. While I do appreciate some quality xbox time myself, the more important thing to draw form this is that all those reasons are reasons TO get out there and fight. Why should we passively accept a system that allows and even encourages behavior like this article described from those that are supposed to "protect and serve" the citizens?
Yeah being arrested hurts. Jail sucks. I have been arrested for "civil disobedience." They roughed us up, put us in zip ties that cut off our circulation, left us in the hot poorly ventilated transit van for around 2 -3 hours. They did their best to humiliate us and make us feel stupid. And after all that I would still get right back out there and protest and resist all over again (and have, and will continue to do so). Because standing up to their intimidation tactics and showing them that people will resist, and more and more are, is satisfying. Look at this whole "Occupy Wall Street" movement and all the movements it has inspired across the country. More people are rising up and doing what they can (even if it isn't much) than have in many years, and the numbers continue to grow.
So, stay inside and be safe while those of us that give a shit put ourselves on the line, or come out and join us. Your choice.
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Guess he was WRONG! The crowd, the police, the mayor, the marathoners ALL acted like mature adults. It's a proud time to be a Portlander--AND it's about time, too
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Sure commenter #52, He was wrong. The white kids who stuck around to 'occupy' the parks really stuck it to the man when the city closed that street for them and let them sleep in the park. That was pretty bold of them when the campers agreed to retreat to one park and now the city is getting them a single bathroom so they can stay locked in the park during the marathon. I hope the general assembly can agree on which section of the park is the smoking section! The tobacco companies were getting worried there for a second! The power structure is surely shaking in their boots and no doubt the Ancien Regime will collapse any second now thanks to these brave revolutionaries on the barricades!

I think many of the commentators are missing the point of the article. The modest proposal of the author is that if there is a protest be careful and think about the personal consequences. Personally I don't think it is a protest or an occupation if the city supports it and authorizes it. Move the protest to Pioneer Square or the middle of the intersection at Broadway and Burnside or take over a bridge or in any way actual force the authorities to take genuine notice of a real disruption and see what happens then. But they wouldn't do that because most involved are consciously or subconsciously going through the same thought process as the author.
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@Bentley; Great post, says what needs to be said here. Connor is a fucking milquetoast who can't conjure up a sack.
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Well dude - - I guess you couldn't have been MORE wrong or more pessimistic. Chew on this: http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/morning_call/2011/10/occupy-portland-march-peaceful.html and this http://occupypdx.org/announcement/ and of course, this: http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2011/10/08/occupy-portland-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-much-cooperation

Seems like you all wanted some sort of melee but when we don't have one because we are working together for change, it's all sour grapes over at the Merc. Boo Hoo you didn't get your controversy or your fight but what that means is protestors concerns didn't get vilified either because of some damning shots on the nightly news painting them as extremists. Which means maybe, if everyone took a lesson from Portland we could get some real change in this country. In the words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along."
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Dear Mr. O'Connor, do the citizens of Multnomah County a favor and QUIT your day job. Please, for the love of God. I don't think your rant is funny or tongue-in-cheek. With this article, you would like us to understand our role in this world: to submit, unquestioningly, to the oppression of the state. Is that what you do everyday, Mr. O'Connor, roll over for the state? Sad. Tragic even. What a sorry, beat-down, useless blob of a soul you have. What's even worse? Your "legal" advice is actually wrong. This is NOT what a protestor (or anyone, for that matter) is likely to face if they get arrested for one of the petty misdemeanor crimes you've laid out above. First of all, no deputy is going to search anyone's anus while getting booked for a petty misdemeanor. The United States Supreme Court has found that practice unconstitutional for simple misdemeanors. Second, Multnomah County does not hold people in jail who are arrested for petty misdemeanors. Anyone who is arrested for one of the crimes above is going to be released on their promise to return to court. Third, the Multnomah County DA's office isn't going to prosecute any of the above petty misdemeanors. They are going to send those cases through Community Court, where the defendant will have to do some community service and bench probation, and then case will be dismissed. Fourth, bench probation means stay out of trouble. That's it. Not too onerous. Finally, the Oregon State Bar does not kick out, or refuse to admit attorneys who have petty misdemeanor convictions for civil disobedience. The Bar doesn't care if you have 5 arrests of this kind or even 10.

Mr. O'Connor, people listen very closely when lawyers talk about the law. You should be careful that you actually give people correct information, especially if you are going to give "legal" advice so publicly. Finally, if you think this twisted picture of yours is the only logical ending of the Occupy Portland movement, then you might consider whether your imagination and life spark got sucked into that idiot xbox of yours.
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It's funny to read some of the comments attacking O'Connor. Down here in the blocks around Chapman and Lownsdale Square where many of us work in the justice system he is known as many things including blunt and sarcastic, but I don't think anyone who has ever seen him in court would say he doesn't work extremely hard for his clients. He seems to take great pleasure in going to trial and is well known for pushing the limits of the DA's and court's patience to advocate for his clients. You might not like what he has to say in his comedic piece (and I don't agree with all of it) but why the personal attacks against someone who spends every single day fighting "the man"?

(By the way, what's your name 'Another PDX PD?" Scared to give it? O'Connor did. Your knowledge of who gets released and searched and the search process is incorrect and incomplete. You better stick with filling out plea petitions if you are in fact a 'public defender.')

-Another justice system drone
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Occupy Wall Street [OWS] activists should not be disheartened by what this lawyer wrote. He is writing a counterintelligence reverse propaganda piece meant to fractionalize individuals and thereby the greater movement. This article mirrors the same erosive spirit as Cointelpro operations and the suppressive blacklisting tactics employed during McCarthyism. The agenda is the complete opposite his preamble and stated premise. This article has points of validity, but it is compounded with collective PsyOps intended to negatively impact the OWS movement. I opine, the OWS movement has already began to formulate into an all inclusive 3rd Political Party of, for and by the 99%! Do not stop for any reason! - Bob Levin, Investigative Journalist/FBI Whistleblower.
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wow after reading that I feel like joining the 1% and do nothing. Nice tips and advice to roll around in my "do I want to risk arrest thoughts" other than that it was a pretty much a "downer do nothing run home and hide form the cops article"

To me it seems Chris was encouraging the same ol same ol ....Just sit at home on your ass and pretend you are happy. This was a depressing writing that is really not Worth reading. The (dis)couraging arrest was an insult to everyone who has done this numerous times again and again. The trumped up scary look up my anus comments, don't always happen, the spin put on arresting was thick. (advise and tips are helpful the crass spin is NOT) ... poking fun at the "green hats' from the NLG is not funny ..I love them folks. :-(

If I didn't like the (Lawyer) article writer and his good works that HE DOES DO in this town, I would say that this advise was written by a white middle class republican who doesn't ever get his suit coat dirty cause he has never gotten out of his BMW to engage with anything going on in the streets.

But I know thats not true w/ this writer. What gets me is why would he write all this? It don't help the movement it discourages it. It seemed to be more of a sarcastically (un)witty dissing of the occupy Portland movement. Written w/ lots of tongue in cheek swirl.

It was long and I'm sorry I took the time to read it in spite of the warning that it was long, I have so much to do, and this was not helpful. I went to that protest last night and none of this sarcastic advise seems very helpful in the least, Unless of course the basic, "don't resist, don't kick the dog, don't grab the officer, etc.

Last word, I respect Chris and his work, I find about no value in this snarking depressing go home do nothing advise. Good Grief. Now I'm really behind in my activism work, after spending 20 minutes replying to a lawyer's swirl.

So if the Mercury wants to help the occupy protesters {with article that say: "Read This Before You Protest" with lawyer advise, give us a lawyer who actually represents the casue.... this kind of "(quote) So my recommendations are as follows: ....Stay home....Play some X-box. I could play Left For Dead 2 all weekend. Great game.(end quote)
"I don't want it and its not helpful in any way to the movement of the 99%".
Mercury.... Next time give us some advise from someone who at least appears to Care about the issues on hand (please)
~joe anybody
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Will the Police arrest any one wth video cameras who are standing across the street bu not iside te parks ?
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Will the Police arrest any one wth video cameras who are standing across the street but not inside the parks ?
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Add to list: Don't get up the morning-you might die. Don't go outside, you maybe hit by a car. Don't worry about your fellow man...they are not you. Be afraid, very afraid. Remember- you might die and it is the fear of death that is the essence of what it means to human in society.

Maybe, I don't have to remind you of these things. Maybe you are not alive...
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There's a man by the name of Dick Gregory that is still to this very day an activist, who is at the ripe old age of 85! He still gets arrested and he continues to fight! He got arrested for protesting BP oil, back in September. Continue to fight for what you believe in, if you don't as you can tell by a lot of the comments and this letter, no one else will, because they are too scared and too comfortable by being conformists that support the status quo!

"I will go to jail for you!" "What will you go for?"

http://www.dickgregory.com/index2.html

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