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I hope you're prepared to lose all that good gravy from Clean Water Portland.
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So remember that story about that Board Member of the pro-fluoride lobby group Upstream Public Health who had his lawn sign burned? You know, the guy who testified for fluoridation at City Council but did not disclose his relationship with Upstream Public Health?

Well what do ya know, an OHSU doctor was just caught red-handed stealing signs outside the headquarters of Clean Water Portland. The good doctor also works for the Oregon Health Authority, the state agency that was deliberately delaying the results of the new Oregon Smile Survey.

http://www.katu.com/politics/Man-caught-st…
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As far as getting payoffs from the pro-fluoride campaign is concerned, I for one never thought that. I knew the whole time that you guys were just ethically bankrupt imbeciles, but not corrupt ethically bankrupt imbeciles!
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wtf is fluoride
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Come on Joneser, you know about flipper babies.
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Is 'Fluoridegate' The New Civil Rights Scandal?
http://wnd.com/2013/05/is-fluoridegate-the…
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Everything you need to know about fluoride in 20 minutes:

http://youtu.be/GX0s-4AyWfI
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You guys are sub-Beavis and Butthead at best. I lost what little respect I almost had for you due to your childish articles on this very serious public health issue.
Too bad you couldn't do some, like, you know, like journalism?

KATU did.
Oh look, an OHSU doctor was just caught red-handed stealing signs outside the headquarters of Clean Water Portland. The good doctor also works for the Oregon Health Authority, the state agency that was deliberately delaying the results of the new Oregon Smile Survey. http://www.katu.com/politics/Man-caught-st…
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"Clearly there is not consensus, as more and more nations and organizations oppose fluoridation. In such a situation, applying the precautionary principle is the logical conclusion.

Fluoridation is a potentially risky, nonconsensual practice. With so much doubt and division within our community over an issue of such importance, the ethical choice is clear."

http://www.mismanagingperception.com/conse…
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I, for one, don't think The Merc was bought, but I think it's a thing where it's super cool and hipstery to be all, "Science rulez!" without actually understanding how science works. The Mercury is basically a 19yo in Biology 102 at Portland Community College who thinks that makes him Albert Einstein. The Mercury failed to look at the huge body of evidence against fluoridating water used by every single European country that exists to decide against fluoridating their water, and instead looked at who endorses fluoridating water here in Portland and ran with it, basically putting out the same refuted arguments we can read at any pro-fluoridation website. Lame.
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Speaking of money, how much are these handful of concern trolls being paid to spam the comments section of every fluoride post with the same copy-paste links over and over again?
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I read that Healthy Kids was paying pilots to flouridate their chemtrails. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm all for flouridation and chemtrails, but the carbon emissions just aren't worth it.
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I didn't even care about this topic at first, but after seeing the distortions of science and blatant fear-mongering being spewed by the anti-fluoride zealots I can't wait to cast my vote against them. I have no tolerance for folks that use deceit and fear to get what they want.

I will derive great pleasure in voting against these hateful and angry anti-science folks.
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SPINDLES: "Well what do ya know, an OHSU doctor was just caught red-handed stealing signs outside the headquarters of Clean Water Portland. The good doctor also works for the Oregon Health Authority, the state agency that was deliberately delaying the results of the new Oregon Smile Survey."

CLEAN WATER MAN: "Oh look, an OHSU doctor was just caught red-handed stealing signs outside the headquarters of Clean Water Portland. The good doctor also works for the Oregon Health Authority, the state agency that was deliberately delaying the results of the new Oregon Smile Survey."

I wonder if there's a bunch of sock puppets up in here?
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Graham, I guess my post's are just so good people have to post them again :P
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On annual basis, how much revenue do you typically earn from the fluoridation funders like Kaiser and the other big players?
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I'm curious whether Clean Water Portland will continue purchasing ad space now that the Mercury has endorsed the other side.

Considering they've presented themselves as ethically pure and everyone else as hopelessly corrupt, wouldn't canceling their Merc ads suggest that they view their ad buys as the same kind of bribery they accuse others of?
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One less Portland publication I won't bother reading in the future. This process has been quite illuminating on many levels. City council and the mayor should be required to take a test before taking office. They have way too much power and are short on smarts. Many citizens don't bother researching important issues for themselves, and make assumptions, plus they aren't shy about acting like they know everything about it, when they don't. Anyone who supports fluoridation has not done their homework. One topic that is very clear, when so many are not.
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Euphonius, No one from CWP has accused the Mercury of taking bribes in the form of advertising. If you guys think the many hundreds of anti-fluoridation comments on articles like last week's Mercury cover story are from CWP employee's instead of people who have actually done the research for themselves and concluded that they do not a non-pharmaceutical grade industrial pollutant dumped into their drinking water, well now whose the conspiracy theorist?

In fact, the only person who has been proven to be a paid social media liaison commenting on articles about fluoride has been on the pro side. Right Shawn Fleek?
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Can this vote just please hurry the fuck up already?
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I don't feel strongly either way, but fluoridation proponents should consider: is it really worth it?

Do you really want fluoridation bad enough that you're willing to deeply anger and offend half of the Portland citizenry? I enjoy laughing at their outrageous claims as much as anyone, but in the end, you have to admit: we are proposing to fuck with their drinking water. There better be a whole lot of cavities prevented if this thing passes to justify the anguish that will result.

With most ballot measures, I've had no problem pissing off the other side with my vote. But this issue is unique. Despite being mildly pro-fluoridation, I'm sitting this one out.
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@Jason Belltower Every major newspaper in Portland supports fluoridation. Not to mention the Pulitzer Prize winners at the Tampa Bay Times. But not you. So that means THEY (along with every major legitimate health organization in the US/world that support fluoridation) are all ignorant... not you? Are you familiar with Occam's razor?
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I never said I thought the Mercury was paid off, and you guys are perfectly within your rights to state your opinion that we should have something we don't want shoved down our throats unless we want to buy bottled water for the rest of our lives.
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Anti-Fluoride folks literally screaming at people on the street downtown today.

What the hell is wrong with these people. I can't wait for this to be over.

Maybe if we fluoridate they water a bunch of them will just up an move away. It will act like a-hole repellent. Sheesh.
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Candice, very apt analogy. Well put.
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YOU GUYS THIS IS WORSE THAN BENGHAZI
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Yes, am familiar with Occam's razor, funny that you mention it. Dr. Dean Burk used Occam's razor in court testimony with regard to fluoridation's link to cancer, after studying fluoridated and non-fluoridated communities and cancer rates. There is not one solid media publication in Portland......
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Scandalous!
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I don't know if the people at the Portland Mercury are extremely stupid, or extremely corrupt, but it's one or the other, or both.
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The head toxicologist of the EPA is an "Enemy of the State". Why? Because he called for more research on fluoride.

http://www.fluoridegate.org/the-film/

FLUORIDEGATE An American Tragedy:

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Fluoridation chemicals, or drugs, or whatever one wants to call them are in non-compliance. Not with the FDA or even the EPA but with the National Sanitation Foundation International. The NSF was handed the hot potato years ago to approve water treatment chemicals and wrote the rules. Here's the kicker, they require 20+ toxicological studies that must be provided by the manufacturers just to apply for certification. The NSF does NOT have ANY of them and neither do the repackagers or the manufactures.

1. Ask for the ANSI/NSF Standard 60 Health Effects document.
2. Locate the all the toxicological studies, in that document, that are required for certification of the product to be in compliance with said document.
3. Demand a list of the original studies and all the data collected. Provide copies of the original, dated documents used to obtain and maintain NSF/ANSI Standard 60 certification
4. Present them. Publish them or provide a source where everyone can see for themselves if their chemicals, medicine, or drugs are "safe and Effective".
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The head toxicologist of the EPA is an "Enemy of the State". Why? Because he called for more research on fluoride.

http://www.fluoridegate.org/the-film/

FLUORIDEGATE An American Tragedy:
How did the EPA respond?
They committed FORGERY – fabricated timecards
They committed DESTRUCTION OF EVEIDENCE – shredding documents
They committed OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE –
They conspired to cover-up the call for more research by terminating the senior toxicologist of the EPA
He took the EPA to court and won on all counts – except one, that he used the wrong pronoun. He used the word “we’d” when referring to EPA’s activities instead of “EPA”
The senior toxicologist then had to sue the EPA for HARRASSMENT – and won the case.
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Looks to me like HKHP has a number of sock puppets of their own, down-rating every comment critical of forced medication and up-rating every pro-fluoridation comment, no matter how snarky or stupid. No doubt this is part of the big money pro-flouridation campaign's "social media strategy," wherein they pay a couple of techies to monitor these news stories and comments threads 24/7, create multiple identities, and gin up an illusion of that massive support for their cause which just doesn't exist in reality.
You would think that with all the support that fluoridation supposedly enjoys, we'd see the red-and-white "vote yes" lawn signs outnumbering the blue-and-white "vote no" signs by a margin of about 7-to-1. But in reality, it's just the opposite.
Corporate largess and deceptive TV & print media campaigns have in the past defeated grassroots campaigns like Clean Water Portland's effort... back in the 90s, PGE spent millions to trick Portland ratepayers into eating the cost of decommissioning the Trojan nuclear plant. Will filthy money from agribusiness (filtered through the ADA, the OHA, etc) succeed in convincing us to allow the dumping of toxic fertilizer waste into our drinking water? We'll know in a week.

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