How do you differentiate between what a bartender does and what a barista does? You're probably the same moron who would tip a bartender a dollar for pouring you a pint of beer and not a barista for pulling you a perfect shot of espresso. What's more skillful? A whiskey coke or a latte? A macchiato or a pouring a shot of bourbon? Stupid.
Bill Maher said it best about tipping baristas- If I have to get in one line to order my coffee then another to recieve it, then you are not waiting on me, im waiting on you.
My experiences have been the same as dmitrir's. (In fact, it's quite possible that we're the same person.) I can't recall ever having been scowled at by a barista.
I think you may be paranoid. (Though they *are* laughing at you as you leave, that's true, and giving hand signals to the people on the sidewalk that reveal you as a Mr. Pink. They also mark your cup. Hopefully that's all.)
i bartended and waitressed at the same time. for a really fucking long time. it put me through school. It took me 4x longer to pull a decent shot and steam milk, and make french press while restocking all my own shit and taking care of the needs for assholes like you. in the end i opted for the bartending because it was SO MUCH EASIER, and made a lot more money, with waaay less knowledge needed and you know what? people are way more decent to you. its bullshit. as a server and a bartender, i had other people backing me up, stocking, and helping with customers, or making the food. as a barista? no way. are you seriously more comfortable giving money to me when i give you something someone else prepared and i'm just the messenger? you'd rather pay bank of america 15 dollars a month to hold your money than to give an educated ( yes ) person who knows the farmer who made your coffee, the altitude level it was grown at, and has spent hours of their free time tasting coffee and comparing it to others? this a real person who has to be evaluated for their job performance every five minutes. you should thank your stars you don't have to do that, or deal with sleazy guys perving on you, or people just taking your hard work for granted. its the honor system. pay up you ass, or go to seven eleven where you get what you pay for.
Todd, you don't make nearly as many typos as I do. Also, I can't imagine Garry Shandling retweeting anything I wrote, probably because I don't have a twitter account. Finally, I doubt if you spent the past couple of days thinking about Jiggs, the bulldog that died of a broken heart.
Nice try, dmitrir, but they've traced our ip addresses and have finally figured out that I'm one of your many sock puppets, along with Leaky, frankieb, and—well, I guess I (you) shouldn't give *all* of them away.
All right, Todd, I confess. You're right. In fact, I'm every commenter here. All of Blogtown spent the past few days thinking about Jiggs, the bulldog that died of a broken heart. All of Blogtown is very sad.
Nope I've never seen, dare I say- the hipster barista. They don't exist in all of the trendy areas, pearl, Mississippi, Alberta, and so on and so forth. This hipster attitude is much like the myth of big foot. There are sightings all over the hipster forest but no real hard evidence. In fact the trendy places don't exist either. So lay off the dope Anonnie, this shit is all in your mind...
@CA - they exist all right. I'm next door to a coffee shop full of them.
And look no further than #11 Ruby to see exagerated self-worth and attitude.
(priceless in how she rants on just after Todd and dmitrir say they never encountered a surly attitude either)
Just say you're in the waiters "cool kids" club and call it a day. Get a clue and look for hipsters in the neighborhood where you say you live, in Powells where your bike was stolen, and in all the districts you mention you know pretty well.
Oh man... over my head completely! Doh!
Well, all I can say in a honest feeble defense is that my own ignorance never ceases to amaze me sometimes.
Life from my perspective can be a challenge for me, certainly.
As you all must clearly see, right?
Damn!!!
yeah, we have bad reading comprehension, cant understand writers intentions, we are completely inappropriate in context, unaware of our surroundings, oblivious to our problems, and delusional too. And speaking for myself, really weary of this bs. And its not like this blog is filled with known professionals of all fields, of a certain degree. You have no respect for this city.
Well at least you admit it but you should speak for yourself. You have no idea the level of respect I have for this city. Don't take things lightly and be presumptuous so that we can bore everyone with some back and forth petty dialogue...
btw Leaky, you should be mindful- anger causes high blood pressure, adds to stress- causing ulcers and many other physical problems. Humor is a better medicine. I try and fail sometimes but I still try. Ha!
Yeah, Yeah, its self evident, stop nagging us to death everyday like grandma willy. You will no longer be here, I just have to take care of some other stuff before this.
this thread is fun to read...I agree with Ruby and furthermore it wouldn't feel right if barristas were all like, "Hi welcome to Stumptown may I take your order please" *smile*
i like it when barristas are rude...b/c its authentic
I am a barista (not at starbucks) and my minimum wage and tips help pay for my college education. Pulling a great shot is way more difficult than being a waiter (I have done that, too). Ignorance will never get you a good drink.
You can always tell which blogtown posts will be over-commented on. Try this one - I'm going to ride my fixed gear BIKE, while not TIPPING, and submitting passive aggressive I ANONYMOUS entries. Ha ha ha ha ha blogtownies - enjoy!
I will only tip if they:
-Know the Farmer personally, and this must include having a meal at his or her house.
-Know the altitude the coffee was grown at.
-Know the acidity level of the soil.
-Know average quarterly precipitation amounts of the area the bean is grown in.
-Are not be that whiny rubyhale.
If you're already paying three bucks for a cup of coffee, certainly you can also come up with fifty cents for a tip.
If you don't want to tip, don't go to the coffee shop, stay home and brew your own.
Don't put any money in them. Your woe has ceased.
That said, fuck a tip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38
I think you may be paranoid. (Though they *are* laughing at you as you leave, that's true, and giving hand signals to the people on the sidewalk that reveal you as a Mr. Pink. They also mark your cup. Hopefully that's all.)
By the way, Sarah, how's that story coming?
YOU KNOW THE FARMER? Fuck, let me bust out my checkbook for you bitch.
Yours truly,
dmitrir
And look no further than #11 Ruby to see exagerated self-worth and attitude.
(priceless in how she rants on just after Todd and dmitrir say they never encountered a surly attitude either)
Well, all I can say in a honest feeble defense is that my own ignorance never ceases to amaze me sometimes.
Life from my perspective can be a challenge for me, certainly.
As you all must clearly see, right?
Damn!!!
i like it when barristas are rude...b/c its authentic
Nor attitude.
-Know the Farmer personally, and this must include having a meal at his or her house.
-Know the altitude the coffee was grown at.
-Know the acidity level of the soil.
-Know average quarterly precipitation amounts of the area the bean is grown in.
-Are not be that whiny rubyhale.
Much respect to the service industry.