Sounds like someone is pissed they live in Vancouver...

Sorry you live in Vancouver, man.

The insecurity/anger of Vancouver residents never ceases to amaze me. I had to visit Vancouver once and by the time I left I had that same feeling one has when exiting a Wal Mart.. that desire to run home and shower in scalding water for about 2 years to get all the grime off. Vancouver is still a memory I can't erase despite many attempts with various hallucinogens. I pity your poor town and I do not feel bad for making fun of it... if anything, Portlanders have been far too lenient in how little they rag on that place. It's like an oasis of West Virginia just north of the river. Thanks but no thanks.

Vancouver is a place where old people go to die.

Don't try to use three-dollar words like "eccentric" and "equate" while living in Vancouver. I'm pretty sure it's illegal (sorry, I mean 'gainst the lawr).

UMM Vancouver does have a farmer's market.

Kay_B....I think the person was being facetious when they said they didn't have a farmers market. Did you really think the entire rant was made with any type of seriousness in mind?

I'm a Portlander and I'm sorta shaking my head at all these typical responses. "Sorry you live in Vancouver, man"? I don't think any of these responses sound as though it's going to make this person envious of us living in Portland. Way to go, snobs! You're high and mighty when you have your computer screen to hide behind!

I don't think anyone is trying to make this I,A person jealous. They're just throwing shit right back at I,A. If you can't handle shit being thrown back at you, maybe you shouldn't throw any yourself?

well said, ritaschmita.

(and to I,A: the line, 'hey assholes....put a fuck you on it.', deserves accolades.)

Rita -- Oh I know! I was just replying with a silly "duh!" comment.

ah, yes: Vantucky! Inbred and corn fed, I say

And ironically, Vancouver is much closer to what Oregon used to be like. If it weren't for the commute, it would be an attractive choice.

You aren't missing much over here, but you knew that huh?

Yeah, the only time I even care about people from Vantuky is when the run into/over me.
I've been right-hooked on my bike, and rear-ended in my Prius (yes I am THAT Portland guy) and both times it was by my lovely neighbors to the north.

You want to live there? Great! But please do one of two things:

1. Stay there. Portland is full of hippies and crime and drugs and all kinds of crazy shit. This ain't no place for self-respectin' white folks. And we all know that people with religion and "right" political leanings are ostracized here.

2. Drive a little more respectfully in our neighborhoods. I know you don't live here, but I do. My kids do too. I know you are all stressed out by sitting in all that traffic twice a day, every day, but chill out, OK? Everytime I see a car with a volcano on the plate I think about the driver blowing his/her top so that I have to wipe his/her ash off.

Vancouver is the logical product of metropolitan area being close to a state border. There will always be those who straddle the line and want the benefits of both states. Some people move up there to take advantage of the lower income and property taxes, while driving back to Oregon to take advantage of the lack of sales tax. Some people want to escape Portland's urban growth boundaries and create a suburban development free-for-all. People in Portland don't look down their nose at you because you're "rednecks" (you're fellow Northwesterners, just like us), we look down on you because you act like you're gaming the system AND most Vancouverites I know love to pat themselves on the back for that. And let's face it, you think those little perks totally make up for the most abominable commute in the area. You must love spending time in your car!

"You wanna know the truth, anonie: Portlanders rarely think about Vancouver"

Not judging by these comments.

Is it buy one get free comment day?

I know one person who lives in Vantucky. She is probably one of 5 or 6 decent humans who live in Vantucky.

Clifford rode his tall bike to the Couve!
I bet he stuck a feather in his hat and called it vegan/gluten free macaroni!

I lived in Portland for twenty years before moving to Vancouver, where I currently reside in the Hough neighborhood downtown. After years of living in NE and SE (both of which I loved), I have to say living downtown here has been a wonderful change, and one that hasn't been in the least bit difficult to acclimate to. Jake and Blabby are right; these neighborhoods are two minutes, if that, from getting on I-5 and making an 8 minute drive to North Portland. They're some of the oldest neighborhoods around, with great houses and awesome neighborhood associations. We bought a four bedroom Victorian-style house, complete with many new updates and a large, fenced in yard for thousands cheaper than the houses in SE. Having been a homeowner in the area, I can tell you that there are so many houses that go for skyrocketed prices with HALF the necessary updates we have over here. And the local scene...that's the important thing. Local markets, businesses, festivals--all with music, art, beer (By the Bottle now having 28 different micro taps--yes!) gives us great amenities without the crowds OR the cliche. Nobody is asking you smug commenters to come over here; we, and anon, aren't trying to change your mind. And lumping those who live in Vancouver as those "gaming the tax system" is AS ludicrous as you thinking anon is lumping all Portlanders as hating Vancouverites (which, judging by the volume of vehement comments, anon was pretty accurate). A lot of people from Vancouver take advantage of it, Tulsa, but not everyone; I live AND work here, and I take pride in being able to shop (yes, with taxes) if it means it goes back into everything I use here and my community. We aren't all mooching, gaming hicks looking to have our cake and eat it, too.

Vancouver is still more awesome than Beaverton. Let's not get going on Aloha, either. At least the lights in Vancouver allow you to move freely about the city. All I do in Beaverton is sit at fucking lights. Nothing is timed. I get up to 55 on TV highway just to stop at the next light. What the fuck city planner?

To clarify, my earlier comment was not meant to be snobby. This particular IA reminded me of one of those ultra-homophobic people who is that way because he secretly finds men attractive and wants to lash out because of it. This IA sounds like he's lashing out at Portland because he secretly loves it, so I felt sorry for him. That's all.

I like downtown Vancouver. It reminds me of downtown Portland, back when it was seedy.

Good job, crookedfinger---you certainly don't sound like just any ol' snob, now---you seem like a presumptuous one!

Vancouver used to have the best gay bar in the metro area. The Northbank. Sadly closed.

Many people don't realize how much Vancouver's proximity reaps benefits for Portland. I know of several retired folks who live in Vancouver due to the difference in taxes on retirement but who participate in many volunteer and work in socially progressive organizations in Portland.

Besides, as someone else said, Aloha/Canby/Tualatin...etc deserve more scorn for being stupid cities.

LR, I live in one of those North Portland neighborhoods you talk about, and about 50% of the license plates I see in store parking lots around here are Washington. You might eschew the tax-free shopping across the border, but it's obvious most of your neighbors are selfish examples of the tragedy of the commons, as Tulsa said. So keep being smug that you're the "good" Vancouverite, but remember that your choice has been subsidized by the actions of the many.

Also, y'all are the reason why I can't have dinner parties on weeknights. No one is willing to sit in Vancouver commuter traffic for an hour to come visit me :(

Face it, TWSS---it isn't the traffic, it's you.

The above poster is a catamite.

"Yeah, no decent people in all of Vancouver. DamosA, many have said it----and i'll pile on----you are a fucking idiot."


Why don't you say that TO MAH FACE, and see what happens to you. Since you wanna dick ride what everyone else has said.

Washington's good for two things: cheating on taxes and purchasing ephedrine.