Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I actually got several calls to see if I had written this because I bitch about the exact same thing every fucking time!

tolerance, lol

Ever heard of a gay bar? They don't need special nights, cuz they are gay every night.

Hey Bertha... Pride last year, Blow Pony. A bunch of meat heads showed up and started beating the living shit out of people including WOMEN, pissing on people, calling us names, breaking shit, trashing us with piss-beer bottles-and hateful words... The cops treated us like criminals. This is never acceptable, but it was even PRIDE weekend dude. Unfortunately it isn't always safe even in PDX. We do get jumped. So yes, please back off and let us have one fucking night a month. Thanks and love the peaceful lezbo.

http://tribes.tribe.net/pdx-sex/thread/e4f…

Hey Bertha... Pride last year, Blow Pony. A bunch of meat heads showed up and started beating the living shit out of people including WOMEN, pissing on people, calling us names, breaking shit, trashing us with piss-beer bottles-and hateful words... The cops treated us like criminals. This is never acceptable, but it was even PRIDE weekend dude. Unfortunately it isn't always safe even in PDX. We do get jumped. So yes, please back off and let us have one fucking night a month. Thanks and love the peaceful lezbo.

http://tribes.tribe.net/pdx-sex/thread/e4f…

always nice to see a blast of bigotry and intolerance from someone who sure as hell ought to know better.

Wow this blast totally hurts my feelings, honestly. I take great PRIDE in being a hetero who supports the LGBT community. I don't grope my wife constantly when I go to Red Cap, and I'm sure as shit not waiting to jump gays after the bar closes (as a matter of fact, I'd kick the shit out of anyone attempting such a maneuver).

What audacity to write such vitriol towards those who are tolerant and accepting of your scene and just want to be a part of something fun, when there's a gigantic ocean of fuckwads filled with hatred towards the LGBT community not at all too far away from Portland.

I take great offense with this, for whatever that's worth to you, Anonymous.

Perhaps I shouldn't be so sensitive, but it seems like a big, fat slap in the face.

The hets are so gauche.

I think this is about blow pony. I can't even tell who is straight since everyone is so gay there. I guess I would feel a bit gross if I saw a straight couple making out, instead of two hot dudes giving orals in the bathroom stall. I don't think the straight folks are gonna jump on lgbtq(...etc.) folks at blow pony inside or outside, 'cause everyone else will beat them up if he or she shows any homophobia.

go to a gay bar. if your going to a place where you feel you may get jumped fucking think about where your going! maybe you shouldn't go there for your own safetly. As a gay man myself i know where to go and where it's probably not a good idea to go to. i dont need "queer nights".

I hear your frustration. The problem is that most straight people probably don't pay attention to the schedule for queer nights.

I don't know man, if the bar I go to 3 - 4 times a week had a queer night, I would not avoid it, I would still want my damn beer at my damn hang out spot. However, if they started country western night I would avoid that place like nobody's business.

Wait a minute - only ONE "Gay" night?! Aren't there SEVERAL ALL GAY clubs in Portland??? Does the writter live HERE, or in Grants Pass?

I like the queer night and actually enjoy the diversity in the crowd but can hear that for some people they need a "safe" space. Much prefer 100% inclusion. Queer is not who but how you fuXk

"Don't be such a sensitive pussy. No one is gonna jump you."

Somebody probably said that to Matthew Shepard, asshole.

Sweet attitude, gotta love it when the victims of hate become the haters. This reminds me of how in some magical way my openess to a recall effort of Sam Adams automatically makes me a gay basher, despite the fact that I voted for the guy. This attitude amongst some (emphasis here) in the gay community is going to really go far in gaining more support for same-sex marriage. Hate is hate, by taking this attitude you make yourself your own worst enemy.

@PDXBirch: What the hell is "fuXk"? You can say the word 'fuck'.

Seriously Anonymous?!?! Wow. This seems to be a trend in the queer community and I seriously can't believe it. Recently Beyonda made soul night free to queers and decided to charge $10 to everyone else. I'm straight and a good majority of my friends are queer and when I read this and the soul night post I am shocked and pissed. It made me not want to go to something that I looked forward to every month (and will no longer go to) because all of the sudden straight = BAD. The thing is - I GET the fact that a bunch of douche bags show up and heckle and can be violent but I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. Lumping the "straights" in with those fucks is unfair, hypocritical and wrong. You're espousing the same hate that you are constantly railing against and I don't get it.
The irony in all of this is that you are alienating and pissing off the straight people that are ON YOUR SIDE. the intolerant assholes...? they don't give a FUCK and don't even read this paper. they aren't listening. good luck, and please stop hating on the "straights"

For the record, there's probably more "diversity" in Gresham, Tigard, etc. than a lot of the places djrykosuave thinks are "diverse." Where's the Mexicans, Portland? I guarantee not in most hipster neighborhoods. Or that for matter real live African-Americans, immigrants, people with disabilities, etc. I almost never see anything but straight white kids and yuppies from other states in a lot of Portland bars, whereas I've met homegrown dykes and gays aplenty, as well as treehuggers, anarchists, etc., in bars where working class folks hang out on the east and west fringes of our fair city. And oh yeah, they can kick your butt, too.

I'm Queer and I'm offended! This douche bag needs to get an ass kickin'
I'm tired of Portland's progressive "Queer" scene that's loitered with evil glares, hypocrisy, harsh judgment, beer cans, bad energy, and some dudes that just need to grow the fuck up already!

You give homo-love a bad name!

look, I am straight- I am a queer/ LGBT ally. I know my privileges as a straight, white person and I don't think this person is talking to me. I don't think you should take offense if you know you are not the ones causing the problems.

Just because Portland is progressive does not mean we don't have issues with class/race/gender. In a lot of ways our bubble whites washes these issues by hiding behind our "progressive" title. It almost makes them cliche, taboo or just insulting to talk about.

I don't take offense to people speaking their mind, even if I don't agree with it, about their experiences which will never be like mine. I will never walk in their shoes so who am I to judge?

Some people need more standing room in this town. Some people need more empowerment. Who cares? Let them take what they need- especially if its just venting through the weekly rag.

So, what do you propose: a gay test? Must do something super queer to enter? What about those that don't conform to your dualist world view? Have you ever thought that your problem is with fuckwits and bigots, not with straights? If I go to queer night and don't make out with my boyfriend while taunting you with homophobic epithets, will you ever know I'm straight?

if you don't feel safe being gay in portland, well, i don't think you've been out of this city enough. this is one of the most queer friendly places i've ever lived (or visited for that matter). although, it appears the queers aren't so friendly.

you want to be able to make out and dance and be yourself...but you don't want straight people 'reiterating their straightness' by doing the same? if you want an exclusively queer event (and in this case, i guess queer means only gay and lesbian? heaven forbid a bisexual meet someone of the opposite sex they are attracted to at one of these 'queer' events) then make one happen and enjoy the meat market. i for one would not be attending an event that advertises that it's excluding anyone based on their sexuality.

No co-mingling unless you plan on fucking precisely the demographic on the handbill. What's that tranny? Pull it off a little TOO well? Get the hell out of here! You're making anonymous ranters nervous.

"We appreciate the diversity." Snicker.

Yes, let's keep everything separate.
A special fountain for you, and one for me.

Seriously, do you even know what you're saying?
If you're so afraid of being jumped, just stay inside. Do you think that if someone really wanted to 'jump' you, they'd just wait outside of the establishment that was hosting some gay party? Seems like the logical thing to do. Or maybe they'd just chill in front of your favorite gay bar?

I'm all for gay rights. I really am. But the moment one says that the straights should go somewhere else just because they want to have 'their time', that's the moment I'm going to tell them to shut the fuck up. Portland is a pretty progressive city. You don't even really have to go to gay bars, or even 'gay nights'. You can go to most bars and clubs, partner in tow, and no one will look twice.

Get over your damn selves.

Why even go out at all? I spent my entire twenties getting drunk and dancing to tired disco only to wake up one day and see that other people (with houses or long vacations now) spend their twenties doing something productive. It took me years to not feel a pang on a Saturday night (and all the queer nights around town) that if I didn't go out I was missing something.

After 40 years of disco, queers could get a little more creative than eating disco bisquits, smoking cigs and pot, and drinking too much. That shit is so passe that even straights do it.

I'm not very gay and I certainly ain't proud, but if you are queer and pround quit pissing your livers away otherwise you'll wake up one day and realize that being stone deaf is not a good trade for crying in your beer all night. I was an awesome dancer, had fabulous outfits, and knew everyone--- NO ONE gives a rat's ass now... and the generation after you will talk shit about you, just like you're talking shit about me.

It's easy to regret things now- hearing is a terrible thing to lose... but the worst thing is I still have to wait tables to get by... had I just saved the $600 a month I spent on booze, drugs, admissions to overppriced trashy hell holes, trips to the STD clinic, and hangover cures, I could have retired by now.

The more you abuse your body now, the more it catches up with you... I feel like shit most days now. Getting out of bed in the morning is literally so painful I cry sometimes. I Just happen to have an identical twin who played her cards right and paced herself. She easily has twice the energy I have and her brain works- mine is swiss cheese. Even my naturopath asks me... what were you thinking???? I wasn't.

If you're fortunate to survive, its no fun being tired and broke. Maybe you have a trust fund or think you'll marry a sugar mama or daddy, but don't bet on it.

There is nothing wrong at all with being a disco bunny. But believe me, you'll never have so much energy and potential than when you are twenty-something- try not to waste too much of it on utter nonesense.

If I sound like an old nana, I am. No "queer elder" told me these things. I don't even know if it would have made a difference. But maybe some of you aren't so invested in being stubborn and self destructive.

There will always be obnoxious straight people, but there is no reason to be an obnoxious queer in headlights just because everyone else is doing it. You know better Nancy and Butch... rebel against the machine- and the machine is drugs, discos, drunks, and deafness.

Just stay at home, masturbate, and go blind... you won't regret it if you can retire early. Cultivate boredom... boredom is a luxury I wish I had right now. Make boredom your best friend and you'll never be disappointed.

really? I would get my ass beat if I told a gay couple to get out of my "straight" bar (even though the designation means nothing). seriously, get over yourself. youre no more special than anyone else who goes out to the bar and tries to get laid.

seriously, thank you. glad someone made a big public Fuck You about this. its needed. i.e. fuck off and die metro-sexual (etc.), phobic-as-fuck, douchebag appropriators.

Hey, B.

You're not so anonymous, it turns out. I am a member of your secret little queer society, and I take offense that you think your small minded, idiotic, childish fairy rampages are actual feelings of the queer community. Are you about to claim that you don't have ONE SINGLE STRAIGHT FRIEND? Because I know for a fact that you do. Honey, calm down. If you're gonna get jumped, its gonna be when you're stupid ass is walking out of walgreens. Not at Blow Pony. So, just keep on vomiting your gay supremacy and watch while everyone just thinks you're a whiner.

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Delete that please.

We need to be careful not to segregate and build up our own intolerances and prejudices. Separating ourselves and keeping ourselves tucked away in our little gay communities and closed gay bars and parties isn't' going to change the world around us.

I find the fact that you demand segregation a simple fact that you are so prejudice it is showing. That kind of mentality needs to getthefuckon.com, now I get it that you want a place where you can easily identify with a community you belong to. But there is a fine line between a community and damn hateful.

Your remarks have crossed over that line and come off as both hateful and deserving of an ass beating. and not because your gay, but because you are intolerant of people different than you ...

I have as much right to show up at a gay event regardless of my sexual preference. sure I might enjoy hetero sex, but have you stopped to think that sexuality is not the prime factor I come out to a club?

I mean lets think this through a club where I don't have to worry about cheating, with music that I actually like.

I'll take getting hit on for the trade off of music I actually like ... I mean hell I am comfortable with my sexuality ... are you?

perhaps you wouldn't have to worry about getting jumped if you were less of a whiner/d-bag who has to have "your" night. While homophobic crime is real, the statistics show that on the whole, you are actually less likely to be assaulted for any reason than your straight male brethren and WAY less likely to be assaulted than a woman.

Awe man. I only go for the booze! More straight bars with cheap booze prease!

Nice one, Joe Joe! I love me some gay bartenders, because they love me. I have absolutely zero problems morally with flirting with a gay bartender in order to get free/cheap/strong drinks. :)

To: oooooOOOOOOOoooooo

Ill help you start your dance night.

Dear oooooOOOOOOooooo,


ill help you start your dance night. Queers like me, included. Bisexuals, included. Trans persons/gender queer persons and partners, included. The lovely "straight" allies we love, included. The douche who wrote this? Sorry. No Bigots allowed.

Dude, seriously? I'm sorry but there is no such thing as a 'straight' night and if you hear a straight person saying " why don't you homosexuals stay out of our club and only come on gay nights" you'd be incredibley offended. How we will we ever reach equality and peace when we separate ourselves? Honestly if there are straight people at a Gay event or club, most likely they are not your enemy nor do they give a crap who you're making out with. Open your mind and lose the chip, my boyfriend and I like to go dancing we go where the good music is and we are not going to be left out because our sexual orientation is different than yours, as you should not be denied anything or treated "less-than" for yours. And FYI I am Bi so where should I go, MR. Elitest?

Fuck you. Compare to your rant, a straight person hanging out in a bar complaining about all the gay people coming in "reiterating" their gayness by groping their boyfriend/girlfriend. Do you see a difference? Way to further separate people instead of being tolerant and helping EVERYONE feel accepted.

I admire drunks having sex into their sixties. My very first partner, a worthless shit, did get hit by a car and died at 38. I don't know how much fun it was after all was said and done, but being drunk and smoking a Merit Gold as a final memory could have been a little more glam.

It's just that the vast majority of livers out there can't take it past 45 or so. And, I didn't mean being productive like buying a house or going to a fancy school, I meant being productive like staying in a cottage in Key West and having a class of wine at age 60--- not three bottles. Just pace yourselves, kids, you won't regret it. Like a drunk aboriginal I know, once told me over a bottle of Jager, "Folks like us never learned delayed gratification."

It sounds like such matronly concept, but even smart gay squirrels don't eat all their nuts in one setting, they stash them at least until the end of the month until the next paycheck. Try expanding it out past the month and make it a year out. At the very worst, your friends can throw a hellava wake if you got ten grand in the bank.

special treatment is not really needed for this. jesus christ. grow up

I frequent both gay and straight bars. You're being intolerant to straights just as people who fear homosexuals are to you.

I'm queer. I don't feel safe in queer spaces because of this kind of crap. The pretentious, exclusive crap that I've seen manifest in the PDX queer scene over the 15 years since I entered it makes it unsafe for EVERYONE.

I appreciate my straight allies.

Just what, exactly, strips me of my queer membership card? Wearing a skirt? Sleeping with someone you don't approve of?

Folks have been trying to take this thing from me for YEARS.

Here's something to chew on:

My queerness is not dependent on my partners. My queerness is about me. It's a piece (not the whole) of my identity. It's about my own approach to attraction and love and sex and intimacy. It pervades my life and my outlook just like my race, my gender, my social class... you can't take that away from me.

I am so disappointed with this sentiment that there is such a thing as "not queer enough" or that allies should be excluded from "our" spaces that I avoid "our" spaces.

My straight allies are important to me. Their acceptance of me often extends farther than the people who are supposed to be my natural allies- other queer people.

More news:

It is impossible to structure your life inside of a queer vacuum. Straight people are a fact of life. Alienating yourself from them helps nobody.

if its not really a safety issue in your opinion it, this feeling still pulls a lot weight (which in portland it very well may not be). straight people are just not wanted at a gay night, a straight couple is rarely something that has outsider status but there it does. anyone can agree that it feels good to be an "insider" which is likewise rare for gay people in most environments. straights should have enough awareness of the disparity to understand the gay perspective, and if they are cool, they will know they look like assholes when they are all over each other in an obvious way at a gay club night. its a awareness thing as well as a matter of respect. and what the hell does this have to do with portland being a liberal city?? nothing.

sorry to have said "straight people are not wanted", i really dont mean that, i mean more like not specifically wanted. everyone loves to have allies in other communities, but with the pda thing is a matter of respect, its sort of analogous to not being p.c. i guess.