Letters Jul 22, 2010 at 4:00 am

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I realize editing is needed at times for clarity or brevity however since you are not foreign to profanity or alternate viewpoints I feel that you have edited my last two "letters" somewhat judiciously. I will stand by my points however. There is a major difference between disagreeing with US foreign policy and military policy (and having been deployed a few times and being an historian of sorts i'd likely agree with most of you) and opening being hostile and disrespectful of the military
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Ghandi's success had as much to do with British economic and foreign policy as it did nonviolence. While Mahatma Ghandi was indeed a great man I wonder how that there nonviolence passive protest stuff would have worked against the Nazi's, eh Hastings?(rather ironically funny last name for someone who commented on the British). By benefit I meant education in the sciences, and hey if I had a kid I don't know that I would be thrilled by exposure to the military. Then again it did'nt exactly sound like they were being indoctrinated. Don't worry Portlanders, your whitebread art school hipster kids are unlikely to join the military and participate in one of the two pointless campaigns which are'nt likely to end soon. There will always be plenty of disadvantaged poor kids and people of color to fill the ranks.
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Dear Editor and chief,
I found this weeks letters content, mature, informitive, generally agreeable, and with an uncommon lack of pettiness. Well done to all; and well done to the friend who shared his clonazepam with me this morning.
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The Showstopper,

I think you err in equating the military with patriotism. There is no draft anymore so anyone who joins the military does so knowing that poor foreign policy decisions could involve them in a needless, unjustified war. Serving in the military means that you have to be comfortable with killing, sometimes innocent strangers. Many young people join because they don't have many options. Sadly, some of them join because they think war is glorious and equate mass murder to video games. Also, with regards to pacifism, it is important to note the distinctions between self-defense, preemptive strikes , and nonviolent resistance. It doesn't help to protect our country if we are "defending" it by preemptively attacking the wrong people, as we have in Iraq. I think there is an academic case for how nonviolent resistance might have been very effective in combating the Holocaust. The British capitulation to Gandhi had a lot to do with public relations and the worldwide public perception of their behavior against Indians. It doesn't really matter if Portland's "whitebread art school hipster kids" support the military by joining, they are forced to support the military through tax dollars. Perhaps if the tax dollars were spent helping disadvantaged poor kids and people of color jobs that didn't include random violence and senseless acts of brutality in their description there wouldn't be anything to debate about.
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I'm from Portland, I went to art school, sheeit I love white bread (Franz, of course). I joined the navy. Best artistic experience of my modest career. Sometimes a change of uniform can be just the sort of self-defiance that leads to those luscious green creative pastures.
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Well sailorjeffy it does figure it was the Navy. @The Golden, could'nt agree more but than again how likely is that? Btw, is China doing a tremendous amount to support it's citizens? Off topic but I am fucking really tired of Americans making us out to be the worst nation in the world. Your conception of non violence working against the Holocaust is extremely naive. Why don't you ask lets say the inhabitants of the Warsaw ghetto (you can't, they're dead) whether knowing the outcome they would have resisted more. I think the answer would have been yes. My grandfather died on a beach in Normandy. Perhaps that could have been avoided if some Portland Pacifists types had like protested those darn Huns eh? I don't think all of you are Pacifists (a bullshit word if there ever was one), rather I suggest Passive/ aggressive if not down right wankers. While I would agree the current situation is utter bullshit, sometimes sacrifice is needed. Don't be pussies your whole life. Certainly peace is preferable to conflict however if the alternative is slavery or domination than no it is'nt, sorry.
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Namby pansies.

"Kill 'em all; let God sort 'em out."

Didn't you ever read The Watchmen?

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