Debate Club Jul 1, 2015 at 4:20 pm

Van Halen: Runnin' with the Devil

VAN HALEN “This one’s for you, Ned!”

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The intro to "(Oh!) Pretty Woman" is called "Intruder," and yeah; why the fuck isn't that its own song? Pretty much all of 'Diver Down' is a failure, from *another* fucking Kinks cover, to great-riff-spoiled-by-terrible-lyrics "Little Guitars"....oh, and let's see...

"Eruption" is still great as a document of a guitarist at his most unfuckwithable. It still sounds good today. Yes, it is masturbatory: that's kind of the point.

We'd all like to brush off the Van Hagar years. Hagar's fucking atrocious, and I'm pretty sure Michael Anthony being dumped from the band later on was due entirely to his still being loyal to an idiot like Sammy.

Almost all of the songs are ruined by Dave's lyrics. Even very good ones like "Unchained." My favorite moments are the very weird ones, like "Tora! Tora!/Loss of Control" and "Outta Love Again." But almost all of their stuff suffers whenever that idiot opens his mouth.

But I still gotta give it to Dave for being the only Dave out there. There wasn't one, so he had to invent one. I'm glad all the rest of them that followed were nowhere near as successful at it. He entertains me. And he sucks.

Most consideration I've given this subject in years. Thank you.
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Eddie brought 2 hand finger tapping to the table. It can be argued he didn't invent it but he's certainly responsible for bringing it to the masses and doing it better than anyone else. It may be considered masturbatory but it was something new that no one had heard before.
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Eddie DEFINITELY didn't invent it. Steve Hackett was the first well-known rock guitarist to use it, and was a big influence on Eddie. To say it was something that "no one had heard before" isn't exactly fair.
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Great read! Not sure about that Lannamann guy, though.
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Van Halen was OK till they discovered synthesizers.
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Van Halen’s lesson for police reform.

For a big act, each detail is crucial; same goes for Portland’s DOJ settlement
Glam rock bad boys Van Halen included an odd item in their contract rider: a bowl of M&Ms, but no brown ones. A single brown M&M in the bowl, and the band wouldn’t play.

Read more here:

http://news.streetroots.org/2015/04/12/van…
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What you guys never mentioned was how David Lee Roth, on VH's 1979 tour, routinely urged concert-goers to ignore many just passed smoking bans in concert arenas as he believed this interfered with our Constitutional right to party. Then alterna-rock came along, people quit smoking, toy dogs replaced rowdy kids in many neighborhoods, jobs got exported, we got mired in the Middle East, and auto-tune was invented. And it was all our fault because we didn't listen to Diamond Dave.
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Pretty sure we went off the gold standard, too!

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