It took billions of years of evolution to create living beings this breathtakingly ignorant. Who knows what untold depths another billion years might plumb!

If these people were made in his image, then that God is one dumb motherfucker.

dogma and idiocy in america continue to have an unbounded presence in the inbred ignorance known as religion...

Do Creationists dispute the speed of light? I mean, the Christian god made the earth on day one, yet didn't get around to making the stars until after day three,(genesis 1:16). And with the furthest visible object/event recorded in our universe so far being 13 billion light years away...? How do they explain away this inconvenient little bit of reality when they are trying to convince the rubes that the Earth is only 6,000 years old?

It is easy to dismiss creationists as idiots (and they are idiots) but think about seeing things from their point of view for a moment. Think how clear the world must seem. Think about all of the problems that don't need solving. Think about how certain everything is, and how the most fundamental questions about have already been answered and resolved.

Are they fucking morons? Yes, absolutely. But I can sort of see how wrapping yourself in willful ignorance could be perversely comforting. I can see why dogma is a refuge, and why ordinary folks would run to it for supposed answers.

And that is fucking horrifying. No amount of truth will convince these folks they are wrong. Truth isn't something they want, need, or have any desire to see again.

@disastronaut: I've actually been to the Creation Museum in Kentucky (with the Secular Student Alliance). They have a planetarium (!) complete with a narrated show describing the relative sizes and distances of the objects in the Universe. They do mention (briefly) how wonderful and amazing it is that we can see the light from these objects, even though they are - even these post-Adventists admit - much more than 6kLY away.

This apparent conflict got about 20 seconds of airtime in a 20-minute show, and the message was twofold: first, our Creation Scientists are still working that one out, which is one of the reasons they need more donations. Second and more importantly, the "amazing" nature of this apparent conflict is more proof of Isn't God Awesome!!

They mentioned a couple of throwaway terms which were, supposedly, lines of inquiry - things their "scientists" were working on to explain how we can see such young light from such distant objects. I wrote them down (yes, in the dark - it wasn't easy). By great good fortune, one of my beermates later that day was a student of optics. I mentioned to him the terms they'd thrown out - not being well versed in optics, I didn't have much of a clue what they meant. His assessment, which I didn't write down, fell somewhere between "complete and utter bullshit" and "I do not think that means what they think it means".

"Do Creationists dispute the speed of light?"

Yes. Some of them actually do... see Setterfield, Barry. He claims in a much cited "paper" that the speed of light has been exponentially decreasing over time (but curiously stopped changing around 70 years ago, right around the time we first had the means to measure it accurately).

No science is safe from these idiots.

"It is never good science to ignore anomalous data or to eliminate a conclusion because of some presupposition." - Barry Setterfield

Words fail me, WOW.

Sigh. Just sigh.

I talked to one creationist and, after I finally convinced them that they did indeed respect science or they wouldn't be willing to fly in airplanes, realized the conversation wasn't going to go anywhere when it became apparent why they refused to accept evolution as fact: because that'd mean we weren't made in God's image.

But couldn't that be interpreted in some spiritual sense?, I asked.

Nope. This person believes God has a cardiovascular system, a penis, and even eats food (but doesn't poo, because God doesn't create waste). Oh yeah, God's veins flow with "spirit" instead of blood.

I just can't comprehend how someone achieves such a level of willful ignorance.

Oh, and kudos on the Jack Chick style hilarity.