I don't really want to pay an extra dime for every beer I buy. I rely on bikes and public transportation, so getting the empties back to the store is an ordeal. I buy largely from small neighborhood stores that don't take the bottles back, so if I want my deposit money back, I've got to take them up to Safeway and then hang around for around 30 minutes while they count them up. I'd rather just recycle them at the curb -- seems far more efficient.
You should work on the unwarranted attacking thing. I understand that it only goes up if recycling rates stay below 80%. What did I say that contradicted that? And I never said it went up by a dime. This is not a big deal or anything, I only said that I don't want to pay an extra ten cents--extra in the sense that the deposit is an extra cost, which can take considerable time and trouble to recover. The fact of the matter is that getting the bottles counted at my local Safeway is slow and frustrating, and there are often lines of people with lots of cans and bottles.
And no, nobody gets the deposit if I put them at the curb, even if I leave them out there all week as an eyesore. I live on a low-traffic street.
And I don't need your permission or approval raise concerns about something being inefficient.
The next helpful suggestion will probably be someone telling me to "buy a fucking car, hippy" or something like that. Because driving bottles to supermarkets, where I don't shop, would be so... eco-friendly, wouldn't it?
Small stores are allowed to accept a much smaller number of containers per day than the usual limit of 144 and to refuse any kinds they don't sell (or claim they don't sell), so I'd have to remember where I bought all the different containers. The store closest to me in my neighborhood says they don't have room to store deposits and asks people not to bring them in, and they can be quite hard to deal with, but I want to support the small local stores.
I'm not arguing against the bottle bill, just saying there are probably still some kinks that could be worked out. And that it if the deposit does up, it could add to the grocery bills of lower-income carless folks who are too busy trying to working for small paychecks and surviving to deal with the hassle of returning deposits.
Leaving them on a busier curb is an idea. I'd have to carry them a block or two, but I may try that, so that someone could get the deposit who needs it more than I do.
@geyser: I live on a relatively slow street and every Sunday evening the bottle people migrate through my area taking all the glass out of the recycling bins. I'm surprised that the same thing doesn't happen where you live.
i love giving my bottles to bums. it makes me happy. anyone who complains about giving hard-working bums an extra 30 cents for every six-pack they drink is a disgusting capitalist. sorry geyser, but it's true.
hopefully, this new law means bums will get paid for my wine bottles as well. i'm paying between $10-$30 for a wine bottle, i'm willing to contribute 10 cents of that to my neighborhood bums.
The increase in deposit only goes up if we have two consecutive years of less than 80% returns. And it goes up a nickel, not a dime.
And go ahead and keep recycling at the curb...someone else will get your deposit, I'm sure. But, seriously, just complain less.
And no, nobody gets the deposit if I put them at the curb, even if I leave them out there all week as an eyesore. I live on a low-traffic street.
And I don't need your permission or approval raise concerns about something being inefficient.
The next helpful suggestion will probably be someone telling me to "buy a fucking car, hippy" or something like that. Because driving bottles to supermarkets, where I don't shop, would be so... eco-friendly, wouldn't it?
I'm not arguing against the bottle bill, just saying there are probably still some kinks that could be worked out. And that it if the deposit does up, it could add to the grocery bills of lower-income carless folks who are too busy trying to working for small paychecks and surviving to deal with the hassle of returning deposits.
Leaving them on a busier curb is an idea. I'd have to carry them a block or two, but I may try that, so that someone could get the deposit who needs it more than I do.
hopefully, this new law means bums will get paid for my wine bottles as well. i'm paying between $10-$30 for a wine bottle, i'm willing to contribute 10 cents of that to my neighborhood bums.