Ok, i see the baby in the carseat, but pull forward. You are messing with our already poorly timed stop light system. Yes, i will honk and give you the peace sign — because if i miss this light, or kill the 9th grader on the bike by blocking the intersection - my non preschool kids are going to be late. I've been doing this for a good seven years and from your reaction you might not be someone that gets how much it takes to honk(let alone at 7:30am) in portland, but i did - and i hope next time you will pull forward the four feet between you and the car in front of you!