Anonymous Feb 23, 2018 at 4:59 am

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"I went to my congressman and he said (quote) 'I'd like to help you, son, but you're too young to vote.' I don't know what I'm gonna do 'cause there ain't no cure for the summer time blues." Godspeed, kids! I hope that your adventures in citizenship end well. Love love LOVE the noise, but you absolutely need to register and vote.
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^ also probably thinks 9/11 was an inside job, Sandy Hook was a hoax, etc.
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Case law precedent for decades did not recognize an individual right to bear arms - that is a late '70s invention of the gun lobby and their well-funded right-wing think tanks that culminated in the Heller decision. If you want to talk about how we should be informed by a knowledge of statute, case law, and the U.S. Constitution, that is.
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It is indeed an interpretation, and one which can thus be re-interpreted to reflect new data and acknowledge the reality of contemporary society. Because the current libertarian interpretation is at best an anachronism, as Flavio points out, seeded and maintained by the gun lobby. We now have decades of objective data supporting guns as a public health crisis. It is possible to reinterpret the 2nd amendment to closely regulate guns as done in the rest of the first world. To equate the practically unregulated, giddy proliferation of assault rifles -- a ridiculous thing which has absolutely no place in a civilized society -- with "Civil Rights" (enfranchisement, equality) is fucking absurd.

Remember that those divine founding fathers started this whole thing under the banner of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". None of which are possible if mass shootings of you and your loved ones are daily existential threats, as they are today in America.
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now that was a productive conversation!
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Not agreeing with anyone, but I'll offer that one thing Jarhead mentioned is Causation, and unfortunately we're not focusing on that enough. As these things continue to happen we are becoming increasingly self aware that people in mass, in public places or "private," are at risk. The conversation will continue about the levels of control that should have been in place and what levels of control we could implement. Then we talk about the one or two people who could have done more, and the person who should have said something, and how a perfect storm of events led to one person out of millions to slip through the cracks, and we'll always end on gun-control topics until we become so heated or tired of the conversation it goes away until the next shooting. Of course, some kids are gonna walk out of class and we're going to elevate it as some type of awesome movement, but we're talking about the same kids on cell phone footage the day of that shooting who were laughing in single file line because they weren't in the classes that were being shot at. And when they walk out, they're all going to be obnoxious teenagers about it - but we're still going to change our facebook profile pictures to show we're in solidarity with them. The class valedictorian will write a powerful essay about it and get a full ride to Georgetown or some shit - a small MSN blurb will feature a 10 question interview with her and she'll say something about going into political science or social services - but what they'll fail to mention is how her essay failed to mention the real causality, that her and all her friends were mean to the weird kid and how half the kids who walk on class to send a message were mean to the weird kid. I'm tired of seeing the same conversations with the same disagreements about access to guns and teachers packing or not, and us not holding students responsible. The little bastards probably treated him like shit and he was already unstable. I'm not saying they are guilty, but I sure as fuck am not celebrating a student body that wants to march out because schools are "unsafe" when they're busy bullying each other. Address why kids are are so fucking mean to each other, that's a big one for me.


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