Mountains need names

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Apparently the Coast Range in Washington is called the Willapa Hills, named after the (now extinct) Willapa people

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I'll roll through the dismal swamplands

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The Coastal Range no doubt had Native names before they were erased and given the total boring, all encompassing title of "Coastal Range." by the colonizers.

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It's also a very Colonial, White Privileged view that the First Nations named everything. They didn't. They believed naming things was a power play. You know what the west coast tribes called the Pacific Ocean? They didn't. They described it as salt water. Bam. No name. No ego claiming they should name something.

Thinking all things deserve names is white colonizer centric. Naming things is white colonizer centric.

The only time the NW First Nations named something like a mountain, river or a lake, was when they used it as part of their lore and it was acting as a metaphor. Otherwise, you got a description, like salt water, good for fish, always slippery, rough and dangerous, etc.

Can't wait to see all the white privileged colonizers cry about that as they try to fit it all back into their white colonizer narrative.

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Making shit up does not equal facts, but hey, keep on trolling trolly troll.

American Indian Place Names in Oregon
http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/1462

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The native names of Pacific Northwest mountains
https://www.oregonlive.com/travel/2017/02/the_native_names_of_pacific_no.html

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Oregon and beyond...

4 Other Mountains Native Americans Would Like to Rename

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/150901-renaming-mountains-denali-rainier-helens-harney-devils-tower

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I'm naming that thing over there. OH FUCK I FEEL SUCH AN EGO RUSH OH GOD IM MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE OH FUCKYES

The problem is not language itself but its use and the political-grammatical relation it takes to nature. Here's a selection from Robin Wall Kimmerer's 'Braiding Sweetgrass:'

"My first taste of the missing language was the word Puhpowee on my tongue. I stumbled upon it in a book by the Anishinaabe ethnobotanist Keewaydinoquay, in a treatise on the traditional uses of fungi by our people. Puhpowee, she explained, translates as “the force which causes mushrooms to push up from the earth overnight.” As a biologist, I was stunned that such a word existed. In all its technical vocabulary, Western science has no such term, no words to hold this mystery. You’d think that biologists, of all people, would have words for life. But in scientific language our terminology is used to define the boundaries of our knowing. What lies beyond our grasp remains unnamed."

Either way, @Beatrix, your post is just intentionally antagonistic and trying to divide people and create whatever of your own narrative that somehow moralizes the practice of naming things as if it was a universal law decreed by your fantasy Supreme Council of Indigenous Dogma... and anyone who strays out of line is a white privileged colonizer devil.

By the way, First Nations were just that, nations. There is no one monolithic Indigenous perspective on many things. It'd be a colonial attitude to assume they are just one single mass.

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Yep, Good ol' Christina picking and choosing.

Thank you for showing the proof that First Nation's in the Pacific NW only gave name to things that were part of their lore. Like the mountains. I said, "The only time the NW First Nations named something like a mountain, river or a lake, was when they used it as part of their lore and it was acting as a metaphor." This is exactly what your links say too.

Who's the trolly troll here?

Yes, everything else is named by what it is. I understand the rest of you probably aren't First Nation, that's okay. But please stop making up shit about us. Yes, I am. I speak Salish. The things you think have "native american" names are... DESCRIPTORS. Ever heard of Skookumchuck River? What does Skookumchuck mean? Large and wild. It's a DESCRIPTOR.

I guess Colonial Authority still exists, right? I see my other message explaining naming conventions was deleted. Yep, whitey re-doing history still.

White Colonialists don't understand that you only name something that you OWN. Otherwise, you just DESCRIBE IT. Please, keep putting links that repeat exactly what I'm saying in an attempt to say that I'm wrong. Because after all, that's all the White Colonialists have done for 300 years. We're used to it.

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@Beatrix, respectfully, I don't immediately agree with "White Colonialists don't understand that you only name something that you OWN. Otherwise, you just DESCRIBE IT. " I'm not at all familiar with the nuances of Indigenous languages and how they interact on a more subtle level than European ones, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that naming is an inherently colonial practice. Every culture has different linguistic traditions, and indeed Indo-European grammar is a bit crude, but I see no reason to write it all off and say giving place-names is a harmful import? Names change, anyways. Does this apply to persons as well? Cannot descriptors too solidify into a phrase-noun?

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Oh you are First Nation! WOW. You speak Salish. LOL I think you're a fucking liar spewing but hey, I don't know you as you are a total and complete stranger on the internet, so my personal thoughts about you are, oh yeah, opinions.

Since you created your account 2 minutes ago you are troll (and given that you refer to me personally and are trolling me specifically, guaranteed you are a just a former troll who got banned with a new account).

I am definitely not an authority, but I do recognize the difference between facts and opinions. Facts are easily found and verified. Opinions are just like assholes, everyone has one and all trolls are one.

Bye Felicia!!!

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Watch out for the white googlers offering links to make sure there is order and their voices are heard.
I wish you white people would just stop. It’s might embarrassing to see you supply o-live and natural geographic (Disney) as a means of making sure you have total control of the situation and can speak for us poc.

Go back to your dumb self absorbed privileged story of living in seattle,ny and the coast. You know, typical egocentric white lady stuff that we is more you. Thanks