I, Anonymous Apr 1, 2010 at 4:00 am

Smiles Are Free

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Nothing wrong with "hello," just please don't say "How are you today?" I don't feel like telling every fucking store employee how my day is going, or more precisely, I don't feel like having to lie just to get my fucking beer. You don't give a shit, and you're only proving you've totally sold your dignity to "the man" by following his rules to feign delight and caring in his customers. You want to know what happens when you tell the checkout person the truth about "how are you today?" They look at you like you're making THEIR life difficult. Hey, ask a question, get an answer. But just don't make me say "fine" like it's some kind of passcode to get my stuff. You get my money, that's all you need.

And don't fuckin say, "Have a nice night" when it's fucking 10 a.m. In fact, please don't EVER say, "Have a nice night" unless you are under 18. Show a little class and say, "Have a good evening."
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this is why i never smile at people first. they're all assholes....
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I worked as a cashier for many years and often got infuriated when saying hello to people who would not say anything in response or even make eye contact. That's just insensitive. But ordering people to "smile the fuck back"? No.
By the way, if people don't smile at you, maybe it's because you're the kind of person who claims superior knowledge of "music, art, and culture." If you're so cultured and aware, work on organizing a union. (I'm assuming this is Whole Foods or some such place.) If you have any sense of solidarity with your co-workers, you probably won't feel as much of a need to commune with customers.
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Lot of disgruntled anonymous people work in grocery stores, I guess.
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you had me at hello...
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...then you lost me with your value judgements based on someone's clothes, perceived affluence, and assumed ignorance. "blood, sweat, and tears"... seriously? you know, you may not be hiding your bitterness as well as you think.


now then provincial, kindly ring up my monocle polish post-haste that i may be away from you unwashed plebs in time for darling mindy's catillion!
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@Sojourner - You said "And don't fuckin say, "Have a nice night" when it's fucking 10 a.m." and that made me laugh. I used to be a cashier, and that was sure a problem for me. It's always bright in the store, right? And they had me working a different shift every damn day. I was always trying to just zone out and get through the day, and could never get my "good morning" and "good afternoons" right. Eventually I just switched to saying "Have a good'un!" 24-7, like a hillbilly.
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A lot of people are just in a bad mood because they're stuck at the grocery store under flourescent light buying a bunch of shit for some other ungrateful asshole partner or child. It's not about you, it's about them wanting to be somewhere else and someone else. Don't take it personally.

And then some of us just hate all humans. I'd probably say hello, but a smile? C'mon.
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Typical PDX douchebaggery in the comments section. "NO, I CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO SMILE AND INTERACT WITH ANOTHER HUMAN BEING IN A DECENT MANNER. I'M LATE FOR THE CRAPPY BAND THAT'S PLAYING AT THE HAWTHORNE THEATER. BESIDES, PEOPLE WHO WORK SERVICE JOBS AREN'T REALLY HUMAN ANYWAY. IF THEY WERE WORTHY OF MY ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, THEY'D BE WEARING TIGHTER JEANS AND HAVE A BAD HAIRCUT AND WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK A REAL JOB FOR A LIVING." Way to stay classy, Portland.
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Rip City Hustle you nailed. Let me just add that 90% of these hipster losers moved here from elsewhere for "the scene". Quit moving here losers, you contribute little, other than adding to the disturbing culture of unfounded entitlement, self perceived intellectual and artistic superiority(you are mistaken incidentally) and general lack or manners and respect of other that seems to have sprouted here in the last 7-8 years. Get over yourself , and stop looking through people as if they don't exist or are beneath you, you might actually learn something. Finally what are most of you so emo and full of angst about? I seriously doubt most of you have been through much in terms of life experience or hardship so cheer the fuck up, yeah? No , I don't need to list my credentials for comparison as most of you 20-30 something hipster monkeys seriously could not relate. Suffice to say that some of you need to lose the attitude and get it through your heads that you are not in as lofty a position in society as you believe.
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Expecting people to want to cheerfully exchange a simple human "moment" at the ol' cash register is like.... trying to cheer yourself up by reading comment threads. Be honest with yourself. It's not likely people will ever smile back. Smile cause you wanna smile and get on with it!
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Tales from working on NW 23rd....
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...then you lost me with your value judgements based on someone's clothes, perceived affluence, and assumed ignorance. "blood, sweat, and tears"... seriously? you know, you may not be hiding your bitterness as well as you think.


now then provincial, kindly ring up my monocle polish post-haste that i may be away from you unwashed plebs in time for darling mindy's catillion!
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at least most cashiers in portland say "thank you." you don't hear that in the northeast.
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The service sector is much friendlier here in Portland than most cities nationwide, and probably the customers too. From PDX to the plaid pantry, I almost always get a polite greeting when I am the customer, and give one back return. It's one of the great things about living here, we tend to be pretty civil.

showstopper - Your generalizations paint the picture of the classic bitter local. so it was ok for you or your family to move here (assuming you are not from a local tribe), but now the "loser's just need to stop"? Just when exactly was the cutoff, right after you or your family got here? Anyone who is a citizen has just as much right to live in Portland as you do. Don't hate because you are getting older, your tastes are getting dated, and you don't understand the newer generations and how they express themselves.
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So um, let me get this straight. In YOUR well-educated opinion, every Tom, Dick, & Harry you smile, wink, & say hello at who doesn't return the favor is an apathetic "trust-fundie" who couldn't possibly possess as much worldly experience as you, do I have that shit right? And based on as little as choice of clothing, YOU can accurately judge that someone can't possibly be as "cultured" as you? Really? Let me tell you something honey - this might not have occurred to you but some of us GROWN FOLKS live bloody, survivalist lives & might not always be in the mood for making kissy faces at total strangers. Had it ever occurred to you that maybe some of the people who walk into your dingy little corner store might be getting off of crappy minimum wage jobs themselves where they had just spent a double fucking shift starring at smiling, beaming mugs just like yours? No, I guess not. Contrary to what YOU think, a simple smile doesn't make life easier, though in your simple world of rainbows & unicorns it might make a difference. Whooptie fucking doo. Yeah, smiles are free... so are opinions. And no one ever asked for them, either. Please take my bit of advice though, as it just might save you future grief: next time you smile at someone at work & they don't smile back, please don't take it personally. It really isn't about you. So please, stop being such a self-importance twat & ring up my hard cider. THAT is your job!


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If you want people to smile at you, maybe consider offering a service that folks can't help but smile at. Say for instance, $7 blow jobs and reach arounds, 2 for $5.
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So not smiling at every fool means one is apathethic? In my world its called hating every fool that sniffs your ass. I mean yeah we're all dogs and all...but with our awesome hipster clothing hopefully we can be cool and pretend everyone has the plague, I.e., not trying to get up in everyone elses shit... even when bored in the choice employment. Maybe mommy should have told you she loved you more. Then maybe you'd do you're job and not have to connect with everything that moves. Its all your deal, in your head...dork.
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So not smiling at every fool means one is apathethic? In my world its called hating every fool that sniffs your ass. I mean yeah we're all dogs and all...but with our awesome hipster clothing hopefully we can be cool and pretend everyone has the plague, I.e., not trying to get up in everyone elses shit... even when bored in the choice employment. Maybe mommy should have told you she loved you more. Then maybe you'd do you're job and not have to connect with everything that moves. Its all your deal, in your head...dork.
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I agree with Sojourner; I just want my shit, you're here because you have tobe. Lets just move along and get it done with.

I also hate having to lie constantly in order to avoid a conversation about why I hate my life. Just give me your hello, I'll give you a grunt, and the cash and let you get back to people who are interested in meeting...everyone.
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if you're gonna smile at me, you better at least suck my cock
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"Nothing wrong with "hello," just please don't say "How are you today?"

POINT WELL FUCKING TAKEN!

I can't stand it when people ask me "How are you doing?"
I got alittle tired of lying to people & always telling them "i'm fine". So acouple of years ago i [briefly] decided to practice an "honest" policy. So when ever someone asked how i was doing or if i was ah`ight, i simply told them "not so good" or "no". The idea of actually saying NO whenever i was asked if i was doing fine was fairly cathartic for me.

However, this method often ended up ingaging me in waaay more conversation then i ever asked for. And in the mean while, i'm standing at the register with all these other people behind me & the cashier is wanting to have some sort of long-winded dialog with me.

So i've since gone back to lying to people. It's more simple & it gets me through check-out quicker.
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"Typical PDX douchebaggery in the comments section. "NO, I CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO SMILE AND INTERACT WITH ANOTHER HUMAN BEING IN A DECENT MANNER. I'M LATE FOR THE CRAPPY BAND THAT'S PLAYING AT THE HAWTHORNE THEATER. BESIDES, PEOPLE WHO WORK SERVICE JOBS AREN'T REALLY HUMAN ANYWAY. IF THEY WERE WORTHY OF MY ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, THEY'D BE WEARING TIGHTER JEANS AND HAVE A BAD HAIRCUT AND WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK A REAL JOB FOR A LIVING." Way to stay classy, Portland."

Just so you know, people who type in ALL CAPS automatically lose all integrity.
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@tw, since you don't actually know my age or tastes, nice assumption that they are "dated" (according to whom?you?) or that I "dont understand the newer generations (poor grammar fyi) and how they express themselves" Nice fail, monkey. The majority of my friends are in their twenties or early thirties at the most. They just don't wear stupid clothing ( skinny jeans, lame retro eighties t shirts etc) and don't aspire to model for Bishops. The problem with you hipster losers is that you are all clones, with little substance. Your culture is a skewed attempt at lookism, where you are defined by your tatoos, how stupid your hair looks and what emo band you listen too. And what "arts" scene you are in etc. I love your arrogance in assuming that clowns like you speak for all Portlanders in their 20's. You have proved my point that the hipster(or however you wish to refer to it) subculture in general is narcissistic,and filled with self importance despite having little of substance to show. Thank you for speaking for all the citizens of Portland you self agrandizing chump, and thank you for making my point even though you did so unwittingly. BTW, nice retarded Native American reference...you are so cultural hip......actually you're not and trust me you don't even want to know what they think about losers like you.. The cutoff point incidentally is when your lame ass moved here with the rest of your ilk. And spare me the statements about your "rights" this is not Poly Sci 102. Now run along wanker, I'm done with your sorry ass.
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I always say "Do you know where I can get some chronic?" This always brings a smile to whomever I meet.
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@showstopper, i am actually 40 and was born in the northwest. my hair is mostly gone and my jeans are medium tightness if you need a stereotype so you can fit me in a box. i just spoke up because i was annoyed at your prejudiced generalizations and the attitude that you have more of a right to be here than someone else. wow, maybe you need to go to a support group for angry aging not hipsters. my emo band would definatley be the cure, i think they are the emo of my generation. note - only dorks correct grammer in a comments section. get over yourself.
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ShowStopper: Are many of the people you're putting into the category of "hipster" shallow and clueless? Yes. But judging from your comments, so are you. If you're going to air your rage in public, make it about something that matters. Hint: the width of people's jeans is not going to cut it. Is it about conformity? Perhaps, although who among us is not a conformist to some degree? I've tried going through life rejecting what's considered "cool" and not caring one iota what anyone thinks of me, and I can tell you, it's not easy.
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@TheAuthor I feel your pain, I have a similar employment situation that leads to situations similar to the the one that probably got you in a bad mood and made you, without thinking, in a fit of anger, send this post in. Believe me, I understand completely what it feels like to be forced through shitty corporate protocol and micromanagement to smile at everyone you see. Just know that most of the people who don't return that exchange probably understand that you don't want to smile and say hello at them anymore then they want to share in that exchange. What it all boils down to is you just have to put up with the self perceived shittyness of your job and just go home every night with a clean slate and not analyze every little encounter you have. Most of the time, people's actions have nothing to do with you. As for the whole art, music, and culture thing. I think you probably figured out just how rediculous that sounds already, so I won't bother with it. Just chill out.
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fucking victims. everywhere.
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a "hello" and a nod are not that hard to bestow. Strange, though. When I live here im friendly, but after living in Tokyo for a couple months I had difficulty being friendly to strangers. I was totally weirded out by strangers who would smile at me on the street. I've gotten it back (working in the service industry kinda does that to ya). People are full of themselves and seem to think a positive acknowledgement (even for a split second) from themselve unto others isn't worth their while.
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maybe if you want a smile at you change your muthafuckin uniform! or tell your co-workers to stop shooting people.
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Oregonians always smile and say hi. It's the invaders.
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I remember back in the day, it was right and proper to bitch slap someone who was not polite. Of course, because of the war, everyone wore an onion off their belt. Not a fancy white one, but one of those old big yeller ones. Course, that was the style back then. Wearing onions and bitch slapping rude people. I guess sometimes I just hate getting older. Simpler times they were too.
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my take on this is that i hate fake chit chat. Death to fake chit chat. Grocery store transactions would be all the more enjoyable if the protocol was no discussion or eye contact at all, as if it was illicit as hell and dangerous. Make buying beer and toilet paper feel like the Bourne Ultimatum it would.
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First, we're not your friends, we're there for the groceries. You want people who will smile when you say hello, find them on your off hours.

Second, to the grocery stores who encourage/enforce the fake-friend bullshit - We are not fooled. Plus, it's irritating to be standing there trying to remember whether we need whole wheat or whole wheat white bread and have our train of thought interrupted by an employee doing the fake-friend routine.

Reasonable greeting: if an employee comes face-to-face with a customer, a hello is fine, or even just a nod or a smile, but when it's done in a fakey way, or an interrupting cow way, such as talking at the back of someone who is obviously looking hard at the row of pickles, it's irritating.

Also, anyone old enough to shop by themselves KNOWS that if they need help finding something, to ask an employee. We really don't need to be reminded by every employee we encounter every time we go to the supermarket, the home improvement store or the office supply shop.

Maybe there's a reason customers aren't so much smiling.
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Working at retail i'm forced to say hello at the door... so i know how you feel as far as being ignored ...rejection is the feeling ur left with.. which is why ur upset.. but just like you don't want to always engage with customers neither do they want to engage with you.. So what i'm trying to say is don't take it seriously and let it slide off ur back.. in fact just ignore it ...whatever.. some people r nice some are dutch bags some are sad some didn't hear and others are in a hurry...
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I'm from a part of the country where it's rude not to smile back when a stranger smiles at you. By the way, that's everywhere but Portland.

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