I, Anonymous Apr 25, 2020 at 9:26 am



OP never underestimate how little white people care for being told what to do, they are after all the most oppressed people in our society and are finally going to stand up to that oppression by choosing to sicken and kill other people! It's their god given right! (that's sarcasm).

The whiteness of anti-lockdown protests
How ignorance, privilege, and anti-black racism is driving white protesters to risk their lives.

To all of the people too stupid to understand how easily COVID-19 is spread, how many people are infected and serving as vectors when they have no symptoms, how it is killing babies, children, teenagers, adults aged 20-50, and those over the age of 65, and how there will be no "getting back to normal" not even if a vaccine is created - it's a VIRUS, like the flu.

Educate yourselves.

To date in the United States the number of cases considered "recovered" (remember you can be reinfected as there is no immunity, not even by having it), the percentage of deaths is currently 32% (worldwide it's 26%). There will be no knowing the true fatality rate until all cases of COVID-19 have resolved.


At least 41 grocery workers have died of the coronavirus and thousands more have tested positive in recent weeks. The longer this goes on, the larger these numbers will get.


At least 5,400 nurses, doctors, and other health care workers responding to the coronavirus outbreak in the United States have been infected by the disease, and dozens have died, according to a BuzzFeed News review of data reported by every state and Washington, DC. However, the true number is undoubtedly much higher, due to inconsistent testing and tracking. The longer this goes on, the larger those numbers will get.


Oh wait it's more like 10,000 health care workers

There is also all of the health problems currently being seen in people who have survived COVID-19 including blood clot, stroke, lung and heart damage.


Young people with no pre-existing conditions are dropping like flies. Everyone is vulnerable. The ones who refuse to understand that have blood on their hands.



This isn't about race or bi-partisan politics. At all.
I've seen people of every size, shape, age and color doing exactly as OP described (or worse).
There are also scads of self-righteous people who pretend that the stay-at-home and social distancing orders don't apply to them because they're "exercising". When they heard, "It's OK to continue your regular exercise routine", they decided to take up running or biking - outdoors, of course. Not by using a treadmill, a stationary bike, or a stand for their new $4000 bicycle - they "deserve" to be outside. It's sunny, ffs! They "can't really be expected to stay inside!"
For the first time in their whole lives, these maskless, selfish people are jogging or on bikes, getting within inches of others while in the wrong gear and tripping over their own feet, spitting and sputtering the whole way.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that so many people just now started exercising. And it's great that a lot of the same people have so much money to throw away on new racing bikes, head-to-toe spandex billboards, and those annoying "clip in" shoes, for starters....
But I wish they'd at least wear masks. And stay 6' away from others. And stop hassling people who have to be at work, just because they're bored. If you're at the grocery store (or any store) and you're "just looking", you're doing pandemic wrong.


Raven I don't erase comments. Only the people who work for the Mercury can do that.
Millions of people are suffering, including me. Believe what you want, feel what you want, and continue to rail against everything you absolutely cannot control. I actually do feel for you, because you believe your suffering is going to end when the stay at home orders are lifted. It will not. This worldwide pandemic, the sickness, and the death are not going to go away when you are allowed to leave your home and go back to work (if you are going back to a job that still exists). That is what is the saddest thing of all. This country is wholly unprepared to deal with what is happening now and all of the catastrophic fallout that will continue to happen for years.


Video of the lock down protesters. These people are bat shit insane.



Donald Trump is a malignant narcissist and a sadist and ALL of the suffering happening here due to COVID-19 could have been prevented. He does not care how many people suffer or how many people die, he does not care about anyone but himself and he and he alone is responsible for the shit show we are living through. He is the one person I will agree is enjoying the suffering caused by his doing nothing and/or taking actions that make everything worse.

As for everyone else, there are thousands of people in this country and worldwide who are recognizing the suffering caused by this entire situation (the sickness, the death, the abuse, all of the loss, all of the devastation, the psychological damage being done, and the trauma happening as well as the trauma that will persist long after this is "over").

People are talking about - every professional who helps abuse victims and homeless people and isolated elderly and vulnerable children, teachers, parents, caregivers, nurses, doctors, (even police who are reporting far fewer domestic calls when they know there is far more domestic abuse happening).

There is no one who sat down and said "we are going to put lock downs in place and sacrifice children and other abuse victims." This public health crisis has put every single vulnerable population in a much, much worse situation than ever before. This country is wholly unprepared to deal with this situation or how long it is going to take to get through it. There will be so many victims. There are already close to 58,000 dead - the same number of Americans who died in the Vietnam war. There are already hundreds of thousands sickened (who will suffer long term health affects that that may even die from even though they survived the virus). There are already tens of millions of people without jobs, people who can't pay their rent, people who are being harmed, people who have been killed, and people who will suffer more than they already were because of this.

People know that it is wrong and know there is serious damage being done. You are not alone in your understanding of that. Really. Truly. Seriously. People know and are horrified. These are the same people who knew about these things existing in our society before this all happened and were horrified then. Our society allows and enables all kinds of abuse and suffering to exist while doing nothing to end it permanently. The abuse existed long before this happened and will exist long after it ends and that is the most horrific thing of all.

You paint this as an either or proposition and it is not. There is no "low risk." Right now percentage of people who get sick with COVID-19 who die in THIS country is 32%. A third of the people who get sick die. The disease is easily spread and if we were all living our lives like none of this was happening the rates of infection and death would be higher.

All of this is a no win situation. All of it. And when the lock downs are lifted and people return to trying to normalize their lives there will still be as much if not more abuse, trauma, sickness, and death happening.

All the Pain We Cannot See
Part I: The hidden costs of social distancing and lockdowns.

What Is the Human Cost of Stopping COVID-19?
Part II: The hidden costs of social distancing and lockdowns.

All The Pain We Cannot See: Part III
Part 3: The hidden costs of social distancing and lockdowns.

I've said it before and will say it again. Seek out help. There is help available to you, even now during this lock down, for you to ease your psychological suffering. Find it (it's as easy to find as writing a comment on this forum). Use it. There is no way you are going to make it through this and the aftermath of this without it.


When will Oregon's economy recover? It could take a year or more after pandemic ends
Economists say the return of the economy really hinges on how confident people are that the health crisis has been taken care of.



CR there is no way this virus is killing one in three people it infects. The most severe statistics are coming out of New York, which has one of the highest testing rates in the country, and they estimate 1 in five hundred New Yorkers have died while one in four tested have the covid antibodies (staggering figures yes but nowhere near one in three). And recent analysis indicates that it's possible the infection rate is double what was previously estimated which means the actual death rate it's probably much lower. That's not to say this isn't deadly serious oh, it's still many times more deadly than any flu. And no I'm not going to click on your links because I don't have all day and I already aggregate my truth through 10 to 12 reliable sources who quote actual experts.

As for Sweden, I think people give it a bad rap. Their Public Health System is infinitely more advanced and well-funded than ours, and they have the means to treat and isolate the ones who get sick. Their infection/death rates may be higher right now but unlike us they have the capacity to handle the surge (because they are not dumbass partisan hacks) and when this is all over I believe they will be among the lowest.


@11 - that is the current rate of death in "recovered" cases (it's gone down slightly to 29% in this country). will it be the actual percentage of how many die? we better hope the fuck not. do you want to be a test case, 'cuz i sure as shit do not.

These are the current numbers for "recovered" cases:
US Cases
Closed Cases
Cases which had an outcome:
Recovered / Discharged
147,411 (71%)
61,656 (29%)

Worldwide Cases
Closed Cases
Cases which had an outcome:
Recovered / Discharged
1,000,101 (81%)
228,194 (19%)


And we are being lied to about the number of dead. (As well as the number of people tested and the number of people testing positive).

U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests
The coronavirus is causing a surge in deaths in the places it has struck, probably killing more people than the reported statistics capture. These increases belie arguments that the virus is only killing people who would have died anyway from other causes. Instead, the virus has brought a pattern of deaths unlike anything seen in recent years.

Nearly 90 of Rhode Island’s ‘discharged’ coronavirus patients are in fact dead

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City
A spokesman for the city Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, which certifies findings on causes of death, said the official death count only includes those who had a test confirming they were infected with the virus.

Florida ordered coroners to stop releasing coronavirus death data: report

Which deaths count toward the covid-19 death toll? It depends on the state.


Nice book, Christina. Do tell us more. Seriously.


More cases and more deaths in all but 6 states, but let's keep demanding we all get back to "normal." https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

death rate back up to 30%

Closed Cases
Cases which had an outcome:

152,324 (70%)
Recovered / Discharged

63,856 (30%)


Ok so rate of death among the hospitalized, got it. And of course right after I wrote that I saw Rachel Maddow do a story about the over all annual mortality rates in many areas being sky high compared to the last 5 years (60% higher in NYC, 90% in Italy) so yeah, we're fucked. Obituaries are taking up more pages in newspapers and in some places you can't find sympathy cards at any stores. May God help us all. Blessings and health to you and your mom CR, and all your loved ones. I appreciate your ability to exchange ideas in a civilized way 🙏


Wow, Christina. You must be bored to post a fucking book in the comments section.

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