PROPHETIC, razor-sharp, obsessive, and kind of a dick, Steve Jobs was one of those rare humans who made a profound difference in how the rest of us live. As captured on blurry VHS in Steve Jobs: The Lost Interview—an hour-long interview conducted in 1995 for the OPB-produced program Triumph of the Nerds—Jobs is a different figure than the one most became familiar with in the iAge. In '95, Jobs had been forced out of Apple and was heading up NeXT, his boutique computer company. In 1996, NeXT would be acquired by Apple and Jobs would regain his throne, but he doesn't know that yet: Sure, he'll casually say, "I was worth over a million dollars when I was 23, and over 10 million dollars when I was 24, and over 100 million dollars when I was 25. And it wasn't that important, because I never did it for the money," but he'll also stop answering interviewer Robert X. Cringely's questions about how he got booted from Apple, afraid he'll get too emotional on camera.

Throughout The Lost Interview, Jobs covers a lot—from how he nerded out over computers as a kid, to why "everybody in this country should learn to program," to how "the only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste." I suspect all of this, in 1995, was interesting; eight months after Jobs' death, it's fascinating—an unexpectedly intimate look at how Jobs started changing the world. Spoiler: It was by being prophetic, razor-sharp, obsessive, and kind of a dick.