Music Aug 23, 2012 at 4:00 am

How Refused Reshaped Punk

REFUSED It’s okay, guys. Smile. We won’t tell anybody.

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Even though i'm somewhat familiar with HC, i honestly have NEVER heard of this band until i stared seeing ads for their show some weeks ago. So i went to youtube to check 'em out.

Pretty rad HC, i have to say. But fucking seriously $40 to see these guys?!?! And they supposedly disbanded over how greedy the music industry had gotten? Man, fuck these hypocrites!!!

I saw DOOM last year at Branx - political Crust Punk band from England - been around since early 1980's and many MANY times more legendary than the Refused! That DOOM show was $12!

There's also a Grindcore band from Sweden called Regurgitate that can easily stomp the Refused into pulp!
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I chose not to discuss the ticket prices or surrounding controversy in this article at all. The band doesn't have much/any control over what the promoters choose to charge for this show. Their music means a lot to a lot of people (myself included) and I don't think the ticket price and consequent outrage is the most interesting thing to write about. But sorry you're so upset Jake.
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Yeah, last time i paid $40 for a concert, it was Slayer. That was just over 8 years ago. No wait... actually that show was $36 post sur-charge.
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Quit being such babies. Go or don't go. The idea that musicians and bands should not be paid for years and years of hard work is ridiculous. Selling out is having to work at a Starbucks for the rest of your life simply because you don't want to lose your 'street cred.' Other countries support their artists financially, but here we believe artists and musicians have an obligation to entertain us for free. America has made us cultural slaves. No one here is laughing on the way to the bank, because we ain't got shit in it.
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Get a grip, Tilner - noone here has said that Musicians should not be paid for their hard work or that anyone should work for free and you damn well know it. However, fleecing fans for maximum profit and milking a [supposed] legacy - especially when you supposedly left the music industry over how "greedy" it had gotten - is very un-becoming of any artist.


Up-coming shows from Fishbone, Anthrax, and D.R.I. are all way cheaper and all these bands are many times greater than the Refused! So yeah, fuck these greedy Sweds if they think they're worth more than an Anthrax/Testament bill! And fuck all the designer "punks" who'd actually pay $40 to see 'em!
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^Sweden is a lot farther away than so cal. Then there is equipment that needs to find its way here. That shit adds up quick.
I'd still not go....
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If THAT were the case, then EVERY band who tours here from abroad would be doing $40+ shows. I just saw a band at Plan B called The Spiritual Bat. They're from Italy. That show was $6.
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That's NOT the case for ALL bands. Some bands just show up with a guitar(s) and drum sticks. Others have a PA and techs etc.
YOU obviously don't know jack shit about nothing.
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You're right No Shit Nathan. I DON'T know jack shit about NOTHING. I DO however, know alot about alot. Obviously, that's alot more than YOU know.

And you're pretty much feeding right into my point - they're a HC band! How much shit do they need when touring?! I've seen bands from over-seas that have had alot of stage gear, equipment, seasoned tour crews, props, etc. and their shows didn't cost $40!

Bottom line is, The Refused are FUCKING GREEDY!
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If you're so bent out of shape about spending $40 for an evening's entertainment, I'd say you've got a little greed going on as well.

Closing comments on this one now, because WE ALL GET IT.


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