News Feb 5, 2009 at 4:00 am

State Budget Cuts Threaten Public Defenders

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So endow the prosecutors & the police with even greater powers, NOT for "fighting crime", but for jailing people & extorting money.
Arrest & cite people at will & then clip the wings & snatch the foundation out from under citizens who're already too poor to defend themselves in ANY sort of meaningful way. THAT'S THE TICKET!

Have i got news for you - PEOPLE ALREADY WAIT MONTHES TO GO TO TRIAL ON MISDEAMENORS!!!!! A person is arrested [or cited for extortion] for whatever reason - maybe the cops are assholes - endure the jailing process, which takes b/t 6-7 hours, & is given a date to appear in court. Then given another date. And another date. And another date. These are all *pre-trial hearings i'm talking about, & a person can have alot of 'em before he/she finally makes it to trial. If that trial ever happens.

I've got more news for ya - a person may have to take precious time off work in order to attend a pre-trial hearing. But for anyone who's not really familiar with how all this shit works (& i barely am, myself), a *pre-trial isn't at all what you think it might be. Just because YOU show up, doesn't mean that all the OTHER people you think should be there WILL. Your lawyer/PD may not be there; you might only meet [briefly] with his/her assistance. The prosecutor may or may not be there. The dumbass cop/s who arrested or cited you are almost NEVER there - not for pre-trials. You may not even see the inside of a courtroom. You may spend all of your time standing around in the hallway. Or, you may sit in one courtroom for an hour, only to be told to go to another courtroom.
Also, depending on where you work & how you get there, it can cost you an ENTIRE DAYS' WORK to show up in court for [as little as] 20 minutes only to be handed a piece of paper with a future court date. A piece of paper that JUST AS EASILY COULD HAVE BEEN MAILED TO YOU! Then again, you could spend close to 3 hours inside that courthouse, depending on how late your lawyer/PD might be.

And as for D.A. Michael D. Schrunk - this guy is a complete ASS & a goddamn liar; don't ever believe a word he says! I can give you more details on him later.
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As a wiser and wittier lawyer than I pointed out to me about a month ago, Public Defender is the only job in the criminal justice system that is required to be performed. The US Constitution says so.

The Constitution does not require that cases be prosecuted. It does not require that cops arrest "criminals." It does not require that crime be investigated. It does not require jails to be built.

What the Constitution requires is that if you are going to have a criminal justice system, if you are going to build jails, hire police, and fund a prosecutor's office, you MUST provide an adequate defense. If you don't want to do all those things, then, by all means, don't fund the defense.

I intend to work "balls to the walls" until the system runs out of money. See how the legislature likes them apples.

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As a wiser and wittier lawyer than I pointed out to me about a month ago, Public Defender is the only job in the criminal justice system that is required to be performed. The US Constitution says so.

The Constitution does not require that cases be prosecuted. It does not require that cops arrest "criminals." It does not require that crime be investigated. It does not require jails to be built.

What the Constitution requires is that if you are going to have a criminal justice system, if you are going to build jails, hire police, and fund a prosecutor's office, you MUST provide an adequate defense. If you don't want to do all those things, then, by all means, don't fund the defense.

I intend to work "balls to the walls" until the system runs out of money. See how the legislature likes them apples.

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Oops. Sorry. Posted twice. That's what happens when my blood boils.
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No need for apologies, missconductpdx. This shit can be quite infuriating!
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"According to the 2007 annual report of the Public Defense Services Commission, public defenders are paid an average of between $45 to $60 per case, which is one sixth of what they say deputy district attorneys make."

This doesn't make sense. Public defenders are salaried, as are DDAs. Yes, in general PDs make less than DDAs, but not 1/6th less. Maybe you're trying to say that PDs deal with more cases than DDAs? If so, then say that. The way you wrote it makes it sound like PDs make 1/6th of the salary of a DDA, which is certainly not true.
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Public Defenders are actually contracted out by the state by case.

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