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I'm fine with the number of parking spots. Better as a biker to have cars corralled than circling neighborhood streets over and over, cutting across and bike lanes and generally fucking up bike routes more.
2
Sarah, that map would be much more useful if you included the legend.
3
I think this is great news for this area. It certainly makes living there without a car seem a lot more viable.
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THIS WOULD BE AMAZING IF IT WERE A MULTIPLE STORY BUILDING WITH CONDOS AND APARTMENTS ABOVE THE STORE. AS IT IS, IT'S JUST A GOOD IDEA. ALSO, GROUND LEVEL PARKING IS A FUCKIG STUPID USE OF THE BUILDING'S FOOTPRINT; I REALLY LIKE THE ROOF-LEVEL PARKING LOT THEY BUILT AT THE HAWTHORNE STORE.
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I think it's great for the area, but I foresee problems. Like all New Seasons, it's parking lot is going to be too small for the number of shoppers, and it's going to be dangerous for cyclist on those two busy bike routes (Williams & Vancouver). I think they should make it like the one on Hawthorne and add parking on the roof.
6
The I-5 traffic goes to the Arbor Lodge store at Rosa Parks and Interstate - much easier than this location.

They're never exactly generous with parking spots as it is.
7
I'm fine (this will become my closest NS), but there's no doubt it will make cycling on Williams/Vanc. more dangerous. But also I could pick up food on the way home, so there's that.

8
Aw. North Portland gets all the good stuff. Come to Deep SE, New Seasons!!
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@Paul - hmmm you're right! There's no legend on that map. Weird. I'll try to find a version with a legend and upload it. For the time being, the blue dots on the map are grocery stores and the gray area around the stores are areas well-served by groceries.
10
This whole area is a total disaster for car and bike traffic to start with. This surely won't help without some major restructuring of intersections, lane markers and traffic lights.

The prime example of this traffic clusterf^&# is the fact that a car traveling east off the Fremont Bridge has to make three turns to get onto Fremont Street. Which just doesn't make sense if you consider, I don't know, the name of the bridge? Plus without a light or stop sign for traffic on Vancouver or Williams, traffic backs way up and those three turns can take quite a while. The cascading traffic gridlock and sometimes blind turns onto Williams are all dangerous for bicyclists and pedestrians.

Also, the nearest I5 ramp is over a mile away at Alberta or south at the Rose District. So this isn't going to pull any traffic from anywhere else. This'll be for locals (and those in NW Portland, if they have a car)

Third, without modifications the right turn off Williams onto Fremont will surely result in a bicyclist's death. It is just a matter of time until a terrible collision takes place. (My prediction is that it will be a rainy night just at sunset as some car driver right hooks a bicyclist in the blind spot that had no lights. I've seen that almost happen several times.)

This new building could be great addition to the area, but only if the city takes advantage of this opportunity to fix the traffic.
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Seriously all you care about is cycling and parking? How very Portland of you. I suppose since North Portland has been gentrified (moved out the minorites, moved in white people from the midwest, new york, etc) this makes more sense as I doubt the original residents could afford to shop here. I also tells me the are even more middle class (income wise) white hipsters (irony) in that area than I thought. Matter of time before it becomes SE Portland,eh?
12
Love New Seasons as a market, hate New Seasons as developers. Consistently marginally just okay urban fabric buildings; junky architecture.
13
Man, this is awesome. I figured that lot would eventually turn into a Fred Meyer, but New Seasons is fine too. Finally, a grocery store in that neighborhood closer than the stupid whole foods.
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@10 I agree it's probably going to take at least one death for the city to fix the Fremont Bridge off-ramp -> Fremont and the Vancouver approach to the Fremont on-ramp.

The cheapest solution would probably be four-way stops at a) the base of the on-ramp on Cook, b) Vanc & Cook, and they should make the stretch of Cook between Vanc and Williams a two-lane oneway eastbound with a traffic signal at Cook&Williams. DONE.
15
Only somewhat related, but does anyone know why they changed the intersection of Greely and Killingsworth into a four corner? Before, Killingsworth had a yield lane onto Greely, which seemed to work just fine. Seems like they solved a problem that didn't exists, while the on ramp to the Fremont goes unattended.
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While the traffic issues in the area remain non-optimal, this is very good news for the area. I'll finally have a grocery store within walking distance of my apartment. Best thing I've heard all day.
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I'm excited as I live in the area, and hate Whole foods, love New Seasons. But I'm interested in people's ideas about gentrifying the area, what does that mean for some people, the pros and cons? I am a lower middle-class (household income with the girlfriend is maybe 45K) but still white gentrifier (moved to Portland 5 years ago from NYC)
18
Finally! A grocery store in my neighborhood that sells fresh produce. Now we just need a fubon asian market in oldtown chinatown.

If everyone is so concerned with traffic you all need to contact new seasons and inform them now. Their office is right on N. vancouver and Tillamook. I've met a lot of new seasons management employees, and they are all very cycling friendly.
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I've live in Eliot for 12 years and I although there is an under-tone of excitement for an actual grocery store in Eliot, I'm disappointed by all the negative feedback. Can't people appreciate something positive, rather than complain about all the things the city hasn't fixed yet?

I agree that there are traffic (auto and bike) issues with Vancouver/Williams. Maybe the city could (for once) go with the easy solution and make Rodney the north/south bike corridor by making all the neighborhood cross streets stop at Rodney (which would make Eliot much safer anyway)?

I also agree that the Fremont off-ramp is a mess, but much of the issues stem from ambulance access to Emanuel. My experience at Eliot neighborhood meetings come back to the fact that much of the traffic issues on Williams and Vancouver (speed, freeway access, lack of traffic controls, pedestrian and bike safety) all stem from access to the ER at Emanuel. I think the hosipital is an important part of the community but the city really needs to give neighborhood concerns equal wieght with the hospital's and return Williams and Vancouver to slower, safer neighborhood streets.

With all that said, I'm extremely excited to have a local, neighborhood grocery store... even if it's a little pricey. :-)
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Agree with Graham, it would be preferable to have a multi-use development of some sort on that site, although given the still somewhat sluggish economy, that's probably not realistic at the moment. Infill is happening in the hood, but at a somewhat modest pace. I'm a regular at the Arbor Lodge store, within walking distance of the new one (but far enough away that I probably won't be too impacted by the increase in traffic, not on a daily basis anyway), and plan on staying in my current apt for the foreseeable future, so for me this obviously good news. For the Whole Foods on Fremont, probably not such good news...
21
When in the bloody hell are they going to open a store downtown?
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Thank the gods smiRk reads and regurgitates bikeportland, else we never would have hurd uv these goings on! THAB U MIDWESTERN SARAH! AND THAB YOU FOR PICCKING OUR MORMLON PREZY! WHITEYS COOL!
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I rent a house in the Eliot neighborhood with three others, and we could not be more excited to have a decent grocery store within walking distance. There are a handful of little corner markets in the neighborhood, but they only sell processed junk, nothing fresh. You're lucky if you can buy a banana at one of these joints. All the aforementioned issues aside, having a real grocery store in the area is going to rock for Eliot residents.
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The point of the neighborhood is to live, work, play, eat, shop in it...not for people to drive through it. A huge vacant lot in the neighborhood creates a whole in the community's fabric. And with all new development these days, it comes with street improvements, new crossings, intersection improvements. honestly, it can't be worse than it is right now in terms of safety.
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@#15

That "yield" onto Greeley from Killingsworth wasn't really a yield, but in fact had a red light. Unfortunately, if you stopped for it, the person behind you would get all pissy, even though the visibility of oncoming traffic coming up the hill and around the corner was terrible. I'm happy to hear it is now a four-corners intersection.
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I love New Season, but I would much rather have a Trader Joes in this spot. The Interstate and Rosa Parks store is so close.

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