Let's get a few things straight. Portland and Oregon in general would have a lot less problems if they simply had red light districts, areas where sex themed clubs could operate without turning local neighborhoods into condom disposal zones, lawns-as-urinals and anemic masturbator hangouts. However the courts here have ruled showing your boobies a "free-speech" right, so good luck getting the clueless liberals who run this state to use common sense when it comes to this issues. The reality is strip bars attract wankers and lowlifes out of proportion to almost any other type of bar. And I like strip bars. Because I am one such person. But unlike the pro-strip-club crowd, I'm not an idiot. I understand most people are trying to raise their children, especially in low-income neighborhoods, without having to see some guy committing adultery with Candy or Raisin or whoever he just met in a bar on the hood of his mid-life crisis convertible, or for that matter, deal with some white boy douchebag wearing his baseball cap backwards setting off with the local black boy gangsta wannabe in the parking lot because neither can hold their liquor, served to them by some cleavage-heavy woman "working her way through paralegal school." C'mon, get real, strippers -- your businesses attract fights, crime and immature men who can't talk about women without calling them "bitches." They're not great places that enhance life. Their relief valves for sexually frustrated males, period, where women basically sucker customers out of money by pretending to like them. Okay, I gotta get back to the club, Venus is about to take the stage and she likes me, she really, really likes me!!!

DamosA, it's clear you don't have kids and have never had to actually try to raise them in a neighborhood riddled with prostitution and other crap that comes with strip bars. Sure, there are churches I don't like, but most of their sex abuse at least takes place inside an office or during a camping trip by the youth club, and not in cars in front of old ladies houses or in parking lots. Strip bars mostly attract morons and people who don't know how to behave in public. Yeah, there's always gonna be the nice businessman and the genuinely classy stripper with the heart of gold. But 90 percent of the clientele and workers are losers who lie, cheat and steal. I know, I've worked with these people, they're often unpleasant, foulmouthed drug-addicted shitheads who lack self-control and actually think Nickelback's a great band. And that's just the deejays.

Wait a minute DamosA, you "expressed on several occasions already my immense distaste for children and breeding them in general." Well I wasn't present for these occasions, but had I been, I definitely would have fled as quickly as possible from your noxious presence. And do I feel sorry for your sister (for the record, having a sibling does not qualify you as a parent)! My point is, whether you like the little rug rats or not, lots of people already have them -- including strippers. I'm all for the right of strip clubs to operate, but the strip club advocates play down the fact that their bars are loser magnets. more so than any other type of bar. They are places rich suburbanites and poor urban males alike go to act like idiots. And the bars encourage the behavior as do the women for one reason alone -- MONEY. They don't care when the college football player leaves their parking lot drunk and in a mood, or when Candy is giving a handjob in the parking lot to Mr. Bigshot who will take care of her. And kids have to grow up around this shit because people like you have no common sense. Society can't exist unless it's a safe place for kids to exist in -- just check out your local drug-addled "hood" if you don't believe me. A red light district keeps the creeps away from the neighborhood and allows horny males the delights of losing their money to women who don't care about anything except stealing the contents of their fellow dancer's purse. It's a win-win, whereas what the strip bar owners are proposing, a world with no limits on them, only results in everyone getting depressed and degraded while a few owners make money (and then drive home to a tony neighborhood with no strip bars).