News Jun 11, 2009 at 4:00 am

Suspending Disbelief

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1
I wonder how anti-sit-lie folks would feel if the sitting and lying were taking place on their front lawn? Or on the sidewalk in front of their house where their children are playing?
2
Sparacus (if that really is your name...)
I dont know about anyone else, but as for me... Portland already has laws against blocking a sidewalk... but those laws make the police and courts prove there was intent, unlike this law. this law is just about moving people around.
if you want a _real_ solution to the old guy sleeping out in front of your house, how about something other than one that works for ten minutes. maybe jobs and housing instead of an officer telling the old guy "move a few feet to your right would you?"
3
Goodfella,
And I'm sure that is your name.
Jobs and housing are created by someone's work. If you're homeless, then it's someone else's work. This is not a value judgment. It is a fact.
If people loiter, camp and sleep wherever they want, it causes the people who work to avoid those areas, thereby hurting the businesses and individuals who work. If the people who work don't make money, they can't pay for the jobs and housing.
There is no old guy sleeping outside my house. I have very BIG dogs.
P.S. I am a registered democrat who works in social services with low-income and disabled consumers.
4
It does not "criminalize homelessness". It creates an enforceable law for any person who seems to forget what "sidewalk" means. It is a walk way. For walking. Not sitting or lying or sleeping. There are benches and parks in downtown where sitting and lying are available for recreational use.

Before anyone starts blindly defending the "homeless" in Portland I would suggest finding out why many of them are in the situation they are in. Having worked with many of them they reasons are generally not because they lost their good job to layoffs and cannot find work. Generally the reasons are that they are selfish, lazy, entitled addicts who know a good story to tell to make them seem more like a victim and less of the cause of many of their own problems.
5
We are all selfish, lazy, and entitled addicts.

We are Americans.
6
DW,
you sound like you halfway know what you are talking about. of course if you knew what you were talking about you would know that there are already laws against blocking a sidewalk. all this does is give a law that allows people to be bullied.
as for the reasons around homelessness, there are those that are there due to addiction. there are also those that are there because they are underemployed.. and those that are dealing with mental illness...
of course, if you worked around homelessness like you claim, you would know that describing them the way you do is a bit hyperbolic...
7
I thought Comm. Fish couldn't complete the RAC center deal unless the city wins the court case brought by the Friends of Urban Renewal.

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