I grew up in the 70s, and think it's disgusting when men want their women to look prepubescent and hairless. I've heard this comment in many other situations, and it's always "gross" that a woman has pubic hair at all. If it's your thing, fine, but insisting ALL women do it your way or else they're repulsive? Not cool.
Most people don't like to pull hairs out of their teeth, but besides that, "where it counts": So when the hairs around the lips are long enough to get inside, they rub, and not in a good way, in a "like sand" sort of way. And after a while that starts eating though the condom, which just isn't cool. But if you aren't wearing one, then it eats the skin and things get painful.
Now that isn't a problem for most people most of the time, (assuming proper lube in the first place we are talking about hours, (not necessarily all at once: over a day or two,)) but given her line of work, if her bush is naturally that big she'd definitely need to shave around the openings. Guys have the same problem: If they have hair on the shaft they might want to deal with it.
Of all the things to get fucking up in arms against. Keeey-rist. I think these guys should be less prissy considering they probably aren't getting any anyway. But I'm married, so what the hell do I know?
There are like hundreds of videos of this girl getting hate-fucked and doing ass to mouth, but the story is about how hairy her bush is? This reminds me of Dudley from The Royal Tenenbaums: "That car has a dent in it."
So is shaving it all off an automatic "go-to" for a lot of gals these days? And if so, is this because of the preponderance of baldies in porn, or is it a personal choice/comfort thing? Ladies! Help an ignorant brother out!
Growing out shaved/waxed pubes is itchy and uncomfortable.
I can't imagine living in a world where some dude - a dude who watches fucking Entourage, no less - gets access to a Sasha Grey's hairy vagina and says, um, no thanks, too hairy for me!! EW! So 70s!! Yeah RIGHT. PUH-LEEEEEEEEEZE.
Also, Matthew D: Your comments have gotten weird since you came out of retirement, and this one is I think the creepiest yet. It really isn't your place to decide what ladies "definitely need" to do with their swimsuit areas.
I'm with Joneser though. It's like they saying goes: you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you probably shouldn't form opinions about other people's pubic area.
However, that isn't what I meant: I was explaining what she was saying. If I was telling anyone they needed to shave, then I was telling everyone (men&women,) they needed to shave. In any case, I'd recommend against having sex until you start to chaff just because it gets dull after a while, I don't know how porn stars do it.
However, in the interest of upping the creepyness around here: Some pussies are more attractive than others, and they should be shaved. Other ones are not, and so should be covered in hair.
If we're not having sex (ie. Sasha Grey), I couldn't possibly care less what you do with your pubes. If we are, do not expect me to go down on you if you don't at least trim. I expect the same rationale to be applied to my nether regions, and I trim accordingly.
I'm dating the first girl I've been with who fully shaves, and it's fantastic. There is an inverse correlation between how much hair you have down there and how often I will go down on you. But that's just me.
Sorry if sharing this was in any way "weird" or "creepy," I just think you should probably expect a frank discussion like this if you're clicking on the comments section of this kind of topic. But again, that's just me.
@Wm. (tm): Having been the roadie for Vagina Monologues all 4 years in college, the answer I'm supposed to give is that all pussies are beautiful.
However, since Joneser has already called me on it: if Marjorie wants to show me hers, I can tell her.
Seriously: I judge porn stars/strippers/etc on their bodies, I mean, that is kind of the point, what is left? Does she have a good grasp of theoretical physics? Is she knowledge about and preparing for peak oil, climate change, etc, etc? I have no idea. However, I can't judge people that I've met like that, they are more than one dimensional, an attractive body with a non-existent brain is ugly to me, Sasha Grey was much better before I found out that she couldn't act in a serious movie, (since then I really think she is robotic.) Where as the people that I enjoying hanging out with, I don't really care how they look, they look great. Didn't shave their face in 3 days, don't brush their hair, I don't care. (I've dated a women that didn't even shave her legs. And I miss her still.) And sure, I've only met Marjorie a couple times, but I've been reading her for years, so besides the fact that a "let me judge your genitals" line is creepy, I'm fairly sure that I'd think it was lovely.
Anyways, as for my preferences: More Georgia O'keefe-ish, less parking meter-ish.
What Joneser and PAC said. I'm really freaked out by Mathhew D right now. Chafing? What? Since when is sex without some degree of after effects for both parties? If there isn't some kind of soreness somewhere you're not doing it right.
Well, speaking as a man that tends to prefer something approximating a clean-shaven pussy, I don't honestly see any connection to pre-pubescence in my particular preference. I wouldn't want my partner's vagina to look like it belongs to a child. That's just plain disgusting.
But, I do, however, want to see what I'm working with, so to speak. I think that pussies (well, most of them, anyway) are awesome to look at. I stop to admire them every single time I'm lucky enough to have my face close to (or on) one. My reasoning for being interested in a clean-shaven, or at least trimmed pussy in front of my face is literally that simple - I want to SEE MORE OF IT.
That said, I'm attracted to women (and, *ahem*, their pussies), and whether or not it's covered with hair is largely inconsequential. Obviously, then, shaving or trimming is not mandatory, and I think that anyone who asserts that it's mandatory is a fucking asshole who probably has control issues. Who the hell are we to tell women what to do with their bodies, anyhow? I'd be just as irritated if a woman I was with demanded that I wax my back or chest because the hair turned her off.
Still, on the other hand, if she likes me, she knows that it'd turn me on to be able to see more of her in those intimate moments (and is turned on by it, too), and VOLUNTARILY trims or shaves for me, then I'd say I'm probably one lucky dude... that might just soon be price shopping for a back-waxing.
If someone turns you on, whether she shaves, trims or not will not matter so much. However, I don't really get the point that "it's like a 12 year old." Can't the same be said about legs and armpits? Generally speaking, well groomed conveys clean. Personally, if it is my choice, I choose trimmed.
BTW, The Darkness had the best comment in the thread.
I think you're all great. Anyway! I finally watched the Entourage episode in question, and if that's what these Twitiots are calling "a hairy bush"โthen they have never seen a naked female in their lives.
I really want to know why being bald is being associated with being "clean"?
I want to put it out there that pubic hair actually protects the vagina from bacteria and other unwanted intruders. We have it for a reason. Technically being bald is actually less clean. A woman's vagina is pretty self sufficient, as long as you take a shower every day the vagina stays pretty "clean" all on it's own.
I do not have to endure ingrown hairs just because men think shaving makes me appear clean. But I do trim regularly, and if any man tells me I have to go hairless than he can go fuck some other girl.
Some women look great shaved. Some look great with trimmed bush. Some look horrible with hair. Some look horrible shaved. Some are passable either way.
I know lots of people that love the shaved look. I am in the minority of people I know that like to see hair. See this amazing girl with bush (http://profiles.met-art.com/profile/E88406…) That should convert any of these young guys that have been brainwashed into thinking hair is disgusting.
Soft, trimmed, hair is very tactile, fragrant and erotic. It is going to make a giant comeback. Already starting to do that now. Fuck twitter.
One more thing, bush is power. Young women should realize that. It is like panties. When a guy sees a girl in a bikini it is a turn-on. But when he sees a girls underwear flash under a skirt, it is usually a bigger turn on. Seeing a a quarter inch of a hair above her panties is like a second "under thing"; yet another alluring hint of nakedness.
Seeing total nudity is so blatant. That is why burlesque is so popular and also making a comeback. Stripping is sensual, teasing and like foreplay.
Skirt comes down....... panties are showing..... skirt comes off..... panites dip down in front..... you can see a little hair...... panties slowly come down....... you see a that triangle of fur..... and so on. It saves the best part, the actual vagina... for last.
Simple design. I also agree about possible health reasons. Shaving has increased over the last 10 years and so have the STDs among youth. I read that 1 in 3 girls have had STD by HS graduation. There could be a link between the two trends.
You just can't beat evolution's design very often.
For the guys who said they don't understand the connectiong between hairless and pre-pubescent, puberty is when girls start becoming women and start growing hair "down there". In a world where men were in touch with their lusty, robust cave-man side, a woman's body would turn him on with all of her full glory, including a "bush". Trimming enough for a better view, as one guy said, seems ok, but bare? trust me, the nubs grow back quickly and are much more of an obstacle than long hair to either partner's comfort.
I think long bushes are very disgusting. Poor men (or even women) who would go down on you and have all that hair in their mouth and teeth. I shave because I like the feeling and the looks. I let just enough trimmed hair so I don't look pre-pubescent. And by the way, I'm a 31 years old woman, heterosexual, married with a kid.
I don't know who the stupid fucks are that like hair and think it's making a come back (and that I wanna say please show me a place where bushes are making a come back that's not Russia, met-art is based out of Russia you dumb fuck!) any ways I don't wanna have to take a fucking machete with me everytime I go to have sex, and I know from experience how disgusting it is to have to look down to find the hole through a jungle, i like to just be able to go in blind so I can kiss my girl or just look at her pretty face not have to look down to see axel and slash poking there faces out and singing welcome to the jungle while I maneuver my way in, and on top of it that fucking turned me off hardcore so I didn't even wanna have sex, you like hair then go back to the fucking 70's you stupid hippies, I don't care if this sounds ignorant, it's fucking disgusting, unless your a communist Russian so now I'm gonna say that all you stupid asses who are pro hair, your a bunch of disgusting communist Russians, and for the record I also make sure my balls and everything else are clean shaven because I have a girl that also thinks being hairy down there is disgusting on both her and myself, and she also does it and WILLINGLY to!! Especially after her experience with getting a puberty stuck in her teeth and then having a school mate point it out to her, that's fucking embarrassing!! So fuck y'all commy bastards!!
Can't believe how amazingly wimpy people are about sex today. A hair or two in your teeth (or more realistically, stuck to your tongue) is 'disgusting'? Boo hoo. I honestly don't even know how people enjoy sex if they are put off so easily. Sex is a sweaty, dirty, messy affair, not a prim tea party with your precious little dollies.
Shave if you want to shave, I don't care. But I really miss the days doing that was a novel and wild thing to try, not something that was expected or even preferred. As porn became more readily consumed, it kept upping the ante, and that meant shaved pussies became the norm. But there's something wrong with that translating to many men in real life sexual situations finding normal, natural sexy, adult female parts a turn-off. I would never want a man like that, I would find someone who could only be turned on by pubeless vaginas simultaneously wimpy and controlling, unadventurous, unmasculine and consider it pathetic that his sex drive is so driven by the world of porn rather than being in touch with the sensuality of the body, with its textural pleasures of contours, smoothness, furriness.
Time to man up, all the weird little nancy boys who find it so off-putting. I hate to break it to you, but people have been having mindblowing orgasms for a long time with a few hairs 'in the way', Enjoy shaved pussies if you like, but if you honestly find natural hair disgusting, you need to seriously reconsider how you approach sexuality and what you expect of women. How we could now be here so many years after the sexual revolution, I don't understand.
Now that isn't a problem for most people most of the time, (assuming proper lube in the first place we are talking about hours, (not necessarily all at once: over a day or two,)) but given her line of work, if her bush is naturally that big she'd definitely need to shave around the openings. Guys have the same problem: If they have hair on the shaft they might want to deal with it.
I can't imagine living in a world where some dude - a dude who watches fucking Entourage, no less - gets access to a Sasha Grey's hairy vagina and says, um, no thanks, too hairy for me!! EW! So 70s!! Yeah RIGHT. PUH-LEEEEEEEEEZE.
Also, Matthew D: Your comments have gotten weird since you came out of retirement, and this one is I think the creepiest yet. It really isn't your place to decide what ladies "definitely need" to do with their swimsuit areas.
I'm annoyed by all of this!!
Sasha Grey is younger than I am. So that's weird.
I'm with Joneser though. It's like they saying goes: you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you probably shouldn't form opinions about other people's pubic area.
However, that isn't what I meant: I was explaining what she was saying. If I was telling anyone they needed to shave, then I was telling everyone (men&women,) they needed to shave. In any case, I'd recommend against having sex until you start to chaff just because it gets dull after a while, I don't know how porn stars do it.
However, in the interest of upping the creepyness around here: Some pussies are more attractive than others, and they should be shaved. Other ones are not, and so should be covered in hair.
I'm dating the first girl I've been with who fully shaves, and it's fantastic. There is an inverse correlation between how much hair you have down there and how often I will go down on you. But that's just me.
Sorry if sharing this was in any way "weird" or "creepy," I just think you should probably expect a frank discussion like this if you're clicking on the comments section of this kind of topic. But again, that's just me.
Marjorie just brought up an interesting question: "Exactly how does one know if one's pussy is 'attractive'?"
However, since Joneser has already called me on it: if Marjorie wants to show me hers, I can tell her.
Seriously: I judge porn stars/strippers/etc on their bodies, I mean, that is kind of the point, what is left? Does she have a good grasp of theoretical physics? Is she knowledge about and preparing for peak oil, climate change, etc, etc? I have no idea. However, I can't judge people that I've met like that, they are more than one dimensional, an attractive body with a non-existent brain is ugly to me, Sasha Grey was much better before I found out that she couldn't act in a serious movie, (since then I really think she is robotic.) Where as the people that I enjoying hanging out with, I don't really care how they look, they look great. Didn't shave their face in 3 days, don't brush their hair, I don't care. (I've dated a women that didn't even shave her legs. And I miss her still.) And sure, I've only met Marjorie a couple times, but I've been reading her for years, so besides the fact that a "let me judge your genitals" line is creepy, I'm fairly sure that I'd think it was lovely.
Anyways, as for my preferences: More Georgia O'keefe-ish, less parking meter-ish.
This being said:
1. As long as she's gone through puberty (and hopefully if I'm seeing it she has) she's not going to look like a child because she shaves.
2. So much of sex is psychological, and as such, this all depends on the situation. There's a time and a place for both.
But, I do, however, want to see what I'm working with, so to speak. I think that pussies (well, most of them, anyway) are awesome to look at. I stop to admire them every single time I'm lucky enough to have my face close to (or on) one. My reasoning for being interested in a clean-shaven, or at least trimmed pussy in front of my face is literally that simple - I want to SEE MORE OF IT.
That said, I'm attracted to women (and, *ahem*, their pussies), and whether or not it's covered with hair is largely inconsequential. Obviously, then, shaving or trimming is not mandatory, and I think that anyone who asserts that it's mandatory is a fucking asshole who probably has control issues. Who the hell are we to tell women what to do with their bodies, anyhow? I'd be just as irritated if a woman I was with demanded that I wax my back or chest because the hair turned her off.
Still, on the other hand, if she likes me, she knows that it'd turn me on to be able to see more of her in those intimate moments (and is turned on by it, too), and VOLUNTARILY trims or shaves for me, then I'd say I'm probably one lucky dude... that might just soon be price shopping for a back-waxing.
Haha.. That's love.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juFZh92MUOY
BTW, The Darkness had the best comment in the thread.
I believe Sasha Grey is 12 years old.
I want to put it out there that pubic hair actually protects the vagina from bacteria and other unwanted intruders. We have it for a reason. Technically being bald is actually less clean. A woman's vagina is pretty self sufficient, as long as you take a shower every day the vagina stays pretty "clean" all on it's own.
I do not have to endure ingrown hairs just because men think shaving makes me appear clean. But I do trim regularly, and if any man tells me I have to go hairless than he can go fuck some other girl.
I know lots of people that love the shaved look. I am in the minority of people I know that like to see hair. See this amazing girl with bush (http://profiles.met-art.com/profile/E88406…) That should convert any of these young guys that have been brainwashed into thinking hair is disgusting.
Soft, trimmed, hair is very tactile, fragrant and erotic. It is going to make a giant comeback. Already starting to do that now. Fuck twitter.
Seeing total nudity is so blatant. That is why burlesque is so popular and also making a comeback. Stripping is sensual, teasing and like foreplay.
Skirt comes down....... panties are showing..... skirt comes off..... panites dip down in front..... you can see a little hair...... panties slowly come down....... you see a that triangle of fur..... and so on. It saves the best part, the actual vagina... for last.
Simple design. I also agree about possible health reasons. Shaving has increased over the last 10 years and so have the STDs among youth. I read that 1 in 3 girls have had STD by HS graduation. There could be a link between the two trends.
You just can't beat evolution's design very often.
Shave if you want to shave, I don't care. But I really miss the days doing that was a novel and wild thing to try, not something that was expected or even preferred. As porn became more readily consumed, it kept upping the ante, and that meant shaved pussies became the norm. But there's something wrong with that translating to many men in real life sexual situations finding normal, natural sexy, adult female parts a turn-off. I would never want a man like that, I would find someone who could only be turned on by pubeless vaginas simultaneously wimpy and controlling, unadventurous, unmasculine and consider it pathetic that his sex drive is so driven by the world of porn rather than being in touch with the sensuality of the body, with its textural pleasures of contours, smoothness, furriness.
Time to man up, all the weird little nancy boys who find it so off-putting. I hate to break it to you, but people have been having mindblowing orgasms for a long time with a few hairs 'in the way', Enjoy shaved pussies if you like, but if you honestly find natural hair disgusting, you need to seriously reconsider how you approach sexuality and what you expect of women. How we could now be here so many years after the sexual revolution, I don't understand.