Butchness doesn't necessarily equate to wanting to be a man, does it? Any butch women want to comment? (Full disclosure: my father's name is Butch. I came THIS CLOSE to being Butch Jr.)
Todd, you are correct. No women, butch or otherwise want to be men. As far as I know, the only women who want to be men are those who feel they were born in the wrong body.
This comedians's question is just another example of men being threatened by something they don't understand about women and his only logical conclusion is, "Of course women want to be men, because having a peen is awesome, who wouldn't want to be a man?!?" I get that he was trying to tell a joke, but maybe he should talk to a feminist or do some reading if he really wants to educate himself on the subject.
I appreciate bell hooks' notion of feminism as being a movement to end sexism and sexist thinking... because that makes room for men as well. After all, like hooks says, feminism is for everybody.
I appreciate bell hooks' notion of feminism as being a movement to end sexism and sexist thinking... because that leaves room for men and allies that don't identify as women. After all, like hooks says, feminism is for everybody.
And like Maria up there said, this article is really, really, really limiting in the idea that feminism is only for women. Seriously, the amount of unintentional misandry is hilarious.
My favorite women whom I think of as strong, independent, and assertive are the ones who don't carry feminism flags to wave at every possible moment, such as PJ Harvey, etc etc....
Maybe she meant that HER own practice of feminism equates to "women helping women," since that is what SHE is doing, as opposed to hating men, being butch, and other stereotypes of what feminism means to WOMEN. She's merely saying, "no guys, I don't want to be a man, I just want to help women, myself included."
In my eyes, feminism is about everyone valuing all sex, gender, and sexuality as equal. Any gender expression or personality characteristics deemed feminine or masculine according to the status quo are equal and allowable without censure too.
The feminist movement was very necessary and I'm glad it
evolved. It has encouraged women and made men aware
that being a women is just as cool as being a man. They
should'nt be categorized by their looks, weight, hairstyle
wardrobe or cosmetics, but for their character, wit, energy
and emotion just like men. Real hero's in history were
Sojourner Truth, Jane Pittman, Susan B. Anthony, all the
sufferige advocates, Dorothy Day, Rosa Parks and the list
goes on, but they're not really recognized as such.
Historians of the male persuasion have written about them
as though they were interesting, quirky but a little too out
there.
You've come a long way baby, and the road is still ahead.
I bet if we changed the name from "feminism" to "egalitarianism" a whole lot more men would be on board with it.
Just a thought.
Since, you know, if we had an ideological movement called "masculinism" whose stated aim is equality for everyone, that there'd probably be more than a few women who would be reluctant to adopt the label, even if they agreed with the aims and goals of the movement.
I'm not a feminist. I'm a humanitarian. And there are legit reasons not to like feminism. They seem very elite. They are overly concerned with women in traditional male power roles. Everything the Yahoo CEO does is wrong and publicized endlessly. They are overly concerned with stereotypes - princess costumes, pop tarts, fashion models, whatever - because they think these stereotypes will hold them down in their pursuit for power. Also, feminists will argue for women's equality, superiority or inferiority as it suits their argument. The philosophy lacks integrity. Many people say they're not a feminist, because they don't know what a feminist is. Apart from that, I agree with the blogger.
Please wait...
and remember to be decent to everyone all of the time.
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Men can be feminists too!
This comedians's question is just another example of men being threatened by something they don't understand about women and his only logical conclusion is, "Of course women want to be men, because having a peen is awesome, who wouldn't want to be a man?!?" I get that he was trying to tell a joke, but maybe he should talk to a feminist or do some reading if he really wants to educate himself on the subject.
And like Maria up there said, this article is really, really, really limiting in the idea that feminism is only for women. Seriously, the amount of unintentional misandry is hilarious.
evolved. It has encouraged women and made men aware
that being a women is just as cool as being a man. They
should'nt be categorized by their looks, weight, hairstyle
wardrobe or cosmetics, but for their character, wit, energy
and emotion just like men. Real hero's in history were
Sojourner Truth, Jane Pittman, Susan B. Anthony, all the
sufferige advocates, Dorothy Day, Rosa Parks and the list
goes on, but they're not really recognized as such.
Historians of the male persuasion have written about them
as though they were interesting, quirky but a little too out
there.
You've come a long way baby, and the road is still ahead.
Just a thought.
Since, you know, if we had an ideological movement called "masculinism" whose stated aim is equality for everyone, that there'd probably be more than a few women who would be reluctant to adopt the label, even if they agreed with the aims and goals of the movement.