Dear old and desperate men: The young folks may be running around in their rompers and daisy dukes and flimsy summer dresses, but these mating colors aren’t for you. And to the particular rockabilly greaser who ruined my iced coffee this morning: You didn’t even ask before sitting down next to me, and I didn’t treat myself to this expensive coffee for the opportunity to hang out with you. Your 9 MPG geezermobile doesn’t impress me. Maybe my politeness encouraged you to slide in such comments as, “I like your blouse,” and “Wow, you’re tan,” but my body language and monosyllabic replies should have sent a clear message. Was when you mentioned “my parents,” and I countered by mentioning “my grandparents” not blunt enough? Apparently not. So, like a grizzled, syphilitic jackal, please limp back to whatever watering hole will give you an AARP discount. Or, if you are determined to waste the time of pretty girls, know that you should at least throw in a free drink with the sexual harassment.—Anonymous
I, Anonymous
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Wow. Full of yourself much?
I agree. What, do you think you exist for some reason beyond gratifying random men? If you are that full of yourself, you don’t deserve to go out in public, aka the MAN world.
Maybe some of these older men that you so blithely categorize as “desperate” aren’t actually desperate at all. Maybe, just maybe, you’re showing a whole lot of flesh, and they’re misinterpreting that as a signal that you’re a slut, and they are simply reacting according to what they perceive to be the appropriate, time-honored way of engaging a slut in public – approach, engage, proposition, and (hopefully) fuck.
If anything, you ought perhaps to bemoan the outdated normative standards the Rockabilly greaser and his ilk probably adhere to: standards that, in all probability, define gals like yourself in “flimsy summer dresses”, “daisy dukes”, and showing several square feet of bare flesh as someone easy to fuck, and who wants the attention of anyone bothering to look.
Also, you may want to consider cultivating a more substantive, mature, and interesting personality. While a paragraph or two of writing is generally not sufficient to accurately gauge the quality of someone’s character, your melodramatically stating that your iced coffee was “ruined” by the unwanted attention of the greaser, and your apparent lack of the necessary courage or maturity to muster an honest, straight reply of disinterest, are probably just so many scrapings off the surface of layers of character deficiencies on your part.
Besides, those “pretty” looks of yours aren’t going to last forever, and so far as I can tell, no amount of tanning, boob jobs, or botox will make you a decent and interesting enough person to be around when your physical beauty fades with age. Best get to work on yourself now, while you’ve still got time.
I, eponymous seems this week to be [sic.] soooo sick.
you know they make coffee that you can brew at home if you hate people, you can buy it at a grocery store, but safeway delivers if you don’t want to risk being in line next to someone…
Just because someone has two x chromosomes and wears a dress in public doesn’t mean skeevy oldsters can accost them in public.
Why do the drive-by misogynists always come out when some girl has the nerve to call out some wrinkled scrotum of a man?
I agree with Evil WSH.
The nerve of that rockabilly guy! He was probably, like, 37 years old. And apparently he’s ugly, too? Ew! Where does he get off trying to interact with regular society? He’s a monster!
He just needs to keep his head down, slop some coffee, and get the hell out.
In fact, why don’t you grease that pompadour one last time, put your fav Horton Heat song on the wi-fi, and do the Soylent Green, grandpa! This is the new Portland, you hideous loser. We’re pretty and young. And we’ll be pretty and young forever!
I mean, how dare anyone try to chat with another human being at a cafe. Talking with someone in public is , like, totally sexual harassment, right?
p.s. Being tan in Pdx rules.
Wearing a summer dress doesn’t make a girl slutty or deserving of any gross attention she might get in a public.
And being over 30 and trying to strike up a conversation with a pretty girl in public isn’t a fucking crime. Get over yourself, young lady: we’re all gonna be old eventually.
Hmmmm…I seem to see the responses split on gender lines. As in, females can relate to being bothered by a guy who has no business hitting on them, and males have their shackles up because maybe they’d like to bother a girl way too pretty for them.
So many things can ruin an iced coffee these days. Sad times folks.
Wise words from Spartacus, Captain of the Obvious Patrol.
Thanks for “breaking it down for us”…man. No one would ever have suspected such tone of responses without your rapier-like insight. Bravo.
And yes, chatting with someone in a public cafe clearly constitutes hitting on someone – every single time. Chatting = sex. Always. So you should never speak to anyone unless you want to have sex with them.
That old deformed freak of nature should never have raised his eyes in public to anyone even remotely better looking than him. How dare that slave look his superior in the eye?!
Thank you, ironically-named Spartacus. Thank you, Truth Teller. Thank you.
Okay, so most of the naysayers here are assuming this guy was very harmlessly chatting. What town are you living in? Ever taken your girlfriend to a bar and walked away for 15 seconds? Some skeezer is always on-hand to fill your seat as soon as you’re out of earshot.
I’m a guy, and I think this young lady’s complaints seem reasonable and realistic. I was at the Thirsty Lion to watch soccer at 1pm on a Sunday, and my girlfriend arrived late, having to snag a seat at the bar to order her drink before we could wrangle a free chair for her at our table.
Within the 45 seconds between ordering and receiving her drink, some unshaven 30-something-year-old had sidled up next to her and started chatting her up. He didn’t even quit when I could see her point very clearly to her boyfriend across the room.
Go out in crowded Portland spaces sometime. You’d likely be surprised at how desperate this city can be.
The guy couldn’t take a hint. Get over it, geezers.
You are both repulsive, clueless assholes. Scummy greaser guy for carrying on the long dead pop culture pussy-fart that was rockabilly and Ianon for pulling her attention away from the mirror long enough to write an insult to someone in hindsight. Grow a backbone and SAY what you fucking think.
This young lady deserves everything she receives.
I, Undiagnosed Personality Disorder
Yes, this woman is full of herself. All though, consider how many registered sex offenders there are and how sex obsessed some of the male population is, I’m not surprised by it. This person should just get up and walk away and possibly put on more clothes. One trend I have noticed is that women show way too much skin and are asking for it. So it’s kind of both of their faults for the negative nature of the situation.
How do her complaints seem reasonable and realistic. He “ruined” her “expensive drink.” It sucks, but lost enjoyment of a latte? Ple-ease. Plus – Sexual harassment without buying her something first! If she is making a joke then ok – but she could be serious though. So many times a purchased drink can buy unwanted sexual advances from a woman, sad reality.
I am a woman, unwanted advances and more happened almost daily when I went out single. Favorite opening line – “You are cute, want to go to the bathroom and do some drugs?” Even that line didn’t “ruin” my drink.
Dear hipsters – you think you’re cool, but you kill boners dead. The reek of BO and American Spirits (the cigarettes that are organic, so they heal your lungs as you smoke them!) is the biggest boner-killer ever.
If you’re a hipster, you don’t have to worry about me hitting on you, that’s for sure!
The beauty of this woman is she’ll have this attitude even after the young has worn off, and then be bemoaning that ‘rockabilly guy’ always goes after young sluts.
Just a note to young pretty girls. I too, am a (relatively) young pretty girl. I consider it good karma to treat people with respect. I’ve seen my Mom’s jowls and know they are to be mine. Beauty is the least of a person. It’s accident. You may go to the gym and maintain beauty, but it’s largely a (lucky and socially privileged ) accident of birth. Develop yourself. Do you want to hang your entire future on a fortuitous surface that will one day go away?
I thought one of the biggest complaints about Portland guys was that many are to sissy to actually ask a girl out. That “Here’s my number if you want to hang out?”, was the status quo for pick ups in this town. It’s a complaint I’ve heard many times. Did this change? Am I wrong?
Anyways, for the young lady, sure getting hit on can be bothersome and I hope you remember what a pain in the ass it was 20 years from now. This guy may have been out of line but you would do well to remember a little trick the rest of us old enough to drink folks have known for awhile, drop the “my boyfriend/girlfriend”. Some asshole wants to talk about cars “My boyfriend loves cars!” some tramp keeps laughing at everything you say regardless of whether you made a joke or not, “My girlfriends got a shitty sense of humor too!”. The best part is you don’t even have to have a boyfriend/girlfriend to use this technique, it’s just like when you’re name-dropping and telling people your friends with someone who you’ve only met a couple times in the hopes of obtaining a little reflected glory.
The whole “women are asking for it by the way they dress” is a tired and offensive mentality. ALL HUMANS wear less clothing in the summer because it is HOT. Women sometimes choose to wear summer dresses or show more skin because they LIKE to. Because it makes them feel good to wear something they like the way they look in. Wearing a summer dress is NOT an invitation into a lady’s bed. GUESS WHAT… it’s not all about you douchebags!! Props to the respectful men out there who understand this apparently mystifying concept.
If only that Rockabilly guy had posted an “I Saw You.” Then the circle would be complete.
I’m a chick (at least I was last time I checked), and I hereby volunteer to present Little Miss Hot Pants with a crowbar to hopefully lever her head out of her pooper. If you’re too much of a pansy to stand up for yourself in a coffee shop to someone who sounds like a harmless masher, you either lead a miserable, downtrodden life, or you’re constantly scouring the environment for something to complain about.
Either way, here’s a free drink for you: it’s called a Cement Mixer, and it will make your bulimic tendencies SO much easier…
‘Women, just because you dress that way does not make you a whore, but you -are- wearing a whore’s uniform. It confuses us.’
Pat: You can suck my dick.
For some people, a coffee drink is a treat. She let the dude know she wanted to be left alone–yeah I suppose should could have politely said, “if you don’t mind, I want to be by myself right now.” But in my limited experience as a person with a vagina, that is usually not very effective in making men go away. It makes them sarcastic and defensive, so either way, the woman loses.
She felt annoyed and put upon. Every woman can identify with this feeling, and don’t give me this bullshit about he just wanted conversation. Assuming she is some tanning bed princess based on her few statements is called using 1/100th of your brain to judge people–oh wait. I forgot that was how we roll in Portland.
Her personality is perfectly clear to me from her “few statements.” She’s mad because he didn’t read her mind about wanting to be alone, she is EXTREMELY insulting about his daring to have aged, she equates being hit on with sexual harassment, but says she’s up for it if he’d buy her something. That’s plenty of information for me.
Well, look on the brightside, you’ve made lots of new friends^^^^lol. I would be willing to wager that you are
1)a tramp (flimsy? buy me a drink?)
2) dress like a tramp
3) are not even remotely as compelling as you think you are
4)are doubtless trolling for some retarded looking 22 year old hipster that looks like a girl.
If you do not want the attention of “geezers” perhaps you should make that clear as opposed to stupid snide remarks. BTW, your money’s on the dresser, now get out
@ Spartacus. I’d love to! But your Mom’s mouth is in the way. And it looks like some old rockabilly dude is next in line? Aw… That’s so nice.
Anyway, just give a shout when she’s done.
hahahaha <3<3 I agree!
Oh, and I think this girl should meet this guy:
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mis/182…
(The response is worth reading: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mis/182…)
@ Pat and Spartacus. Once a conversation gets to the “your mom” level, then dialogue can truly begin.
Best I anon thread for a while.
Flagrant double standards left and right – it is sickening. If a guy was walking around without a shirt on I would not assume he wanted to have sex with me because he is showing a lot of skin. Nor would I think he was slutty or ‘wearing a whore’s clothing’. just because their bodies are attractive to you and they reject unwelcome advances doesn’t mean they are whores.
Yeah, when a creep hits on you it can be creepy. When a babe hits on you, it’s killer. Duh.
But don’t be a dickle about it. Have a little perspective.
Someone’s creep is someone else’s babe.
got hatefuck?
@lady “If a guy was walking around without a shirt on I would not assume he wanted to have sex with me “
I think you’re way off on that one. Chances are he would have sex with you unless he’s too busy running from the cops. For the record, a dude walking around without his shirt on is a whore unless he is: a.) working in the yard b.) playing basketball or c.) engaged in some sort of beach/water activity
And no, exercising without your shirt on is not a pass. If you do this you are a whore and most likely a douche bag.
I would file this under the “lost art of flirting” category. Sounds like this poor guy and put upon woman don’t actually know how to flirt or deftly reject advances.
Men, compliments on a woman’s appearance will always be misinterpreted. So don’t make them till you’ve known her at at least 10 years. Stick to inoffensive jokes and pro-Obama statements in Portland.
Men, it’s also pretty easy to tell if a woman is into you. She actually looks at you and smiles without appearing to be straining. Sometimes she looks away if she can’t handle your powerful haunting gaze. But then she will steal a look back. When you’re not looking. So you’ll never know. And die alone.
Women, if you’re not into a man, it’s easy to simply say, “I’m waiting for my boyfriend, who just got sworn in as a Portland police officer.” that tends to work. Unless the guy hitting on you is a cop. Or an anarchist. but then he’ll be busy smashing the window of the coffee shop, not actually asking you on a date.
to the woman complaining of old men hitting on her: dont worry when you are over 30 NO man will be interested in you. not even the old ones. as a 39 year old man i only go after 18-22 year olds because they look the best and usually havent yet become exploitive manipulative bitches.
and when i can no longer get 18-22 year old american women i will go to the phillipinnes or india and rescue an 18 year old from poverty and she will give me many blowjobs in gratitude. because i deserve it.
life is a game and the man who avoids marriage, gets a vasectomy to avoid impregnation dates beautiful sweet natured 18 year olds until the day he dies WINS.
this woman is a misandrist.
Hey there girl, I’m a 22 year-old unemployed hipster douchebag with a greasy moustache, but I bet it’s cool if I hit on you…
“These mating colors are not for you”…. unless you buy me a drink. Priceless.
So the woman is a little full of herself. It still doesn’t give every douchebag within a 500 yard radius a right to hit on her or otherwise irritate the shit out of her when she goes out for a coffee. Calm the fuck down and try and leave women alone for a change.
so… for the past way-too-many years, every boy or girl that struck up a conversation with me in a bar or cafe wanted to FUCK ME??? get out. that’s so depressing to think of how much I’ve missed out on over the years.
if anyone needs me I’ll be sobbing in the corner…
also – note to the women of PDX, hipster or otherwise:
please ignore the people telling you to not dress slutty.
i want yer head
Hey Luscious Ladies,
The only thing interesting about you is the size of your breasts and the shape of your ass. When those go, we will stop trying to fuck you and the only thing left will be your empty box of a personality. Enjoy our attention while it lasts, in the meantime if you don’t want to talk to someone, don’t. If you don’t like that men stare at your tits, don’t sport cleavage.
If you don’t like that men want to sodomize you, don’t wear daisy dukes.
ME
I don’t think that men, regardless of age, realize just how threatening their unwanted sexual attentions are. At times it’s not just irritating, it’s downright frakkin scary. And it is a lot scarier and more irritating when you are younger (and for obvious reasons happens more often). Because the guy was older, he probably knew the poor girl wouldn’t say shit to him so it was just fine to be all pervy. Gross. That would ruin anyone’s morning coffee. And I just love how a couple of you are suggesting the girl brought it on by what she was wearing. Oh, so it was HER fault now, right??? Sure, that held up in a court of law in the ’60s buddy; thankfully we’ve come a ways.
Quit flashing your panties at old geezers and they won’t come on to you!
Ok, I have to agree with Eric. Keep flashing your panties, then just come here and bitch about it! carry on.
@Mr. Freedom: “I’m waiting for my boyfriend..” doesn’t always work. Some guys see that as a fun challenge! There’s a difference between being hit on by a guy who gets the hint when you respectfully decline…. AND THEN there are the creeps. They are threatening and relentless and scary. these are the ones that prey on your too-drunk friend… because they figure she’ll be easy cuz she’s wasted! (SO GROSS) and you have to repeatedly, bluntly ask them to leave, and then they still slither back with a drink in hand for her.. probably roofied. Seems like a lot of you men have no idea what we’re up against. And you will never really know. You assume that simply declining an advance will always work. It does not. I hope you 18-22 year olds know you can stand up for yourselves and tell these skeezeballs to fuck off. If being polite doesn’t work then they deserve it.
Are any of you female? You guys all seem a bit misogynistic to me. It’s HOT out and girls are allowed to wear revealing clothing. Men go around with there shirts off, maybe you want all women to wear burkas so you can control yourselves? She may be shallow (though there’s no reason you could know that), but I am not and I am also sick of men that are the same age as my father thinking that it would not creep me the fuck out. We no longer live in times where 50 year old men marry 16 year old girls. Also, note to all guys: never hit on women on the bus or any other location they can not easily escape. It’s makes them feel unsafe. I think maybe you guys are a little too defensive, so maybe you should hit on girls your own age.
@Lady: I appreciate that women have it rough when it comes to fending off unwanted advances. I always tell my female friends not to accept open drinks from strangers, walk them to their cars, that kind of thing. I was trying to add a little levity to a rather polarizing debate, and one particularly strong in Portland, where men and women can’t seem to make up their minds how to meet and mate without turning it into a psychological battlefield instead of having some fun with it all. My point is, most men and women today don’t really know how to flirt or tell someone where to get off, which is why the young lady who posted this was offended by what I saw was rather silly banter from Mr. Rockabilly Dude. If you reread my post, you’ll notice I was actually making fun of men more than women — I’m always telling guys to be a lot more casual when flirting. The key is for a woman to not even know you’re interested, not make it so obvious her skin crawls. But I feel I will get hammered by all sides if I continue commenting, so I wish you a safe and happy time wherever you go! Back to flirting …
@Mr. Freedom… right on. To be clear, I was attempting to make a general point to all because it seems to be a commonly held belief that all women need to do in these situations is brush dudes off in one way or another… I didn’t mean for that to be directed entirely at you (sorry). I think the things you say make sense, and you’re generally correct about the flirting thing. perhaps some of the other assholes that post here can learn a thing or two from you and other dudes who’s brains have caught up with their dicks. good women appreciate it. happy flirting!
These pretzels are making me thirsty.
“…men…[don’t] realize just how threatening their unwanted sexual attentions are. At times it’s not just irritating, it’s downright frakkin scary.”
And I don’t think that women realize how resentful men get when they’re told that fulfilling their biological/evolutionary needs is creepy. All of us get boners, but not all of us are potential rapists. I don’t think women realize the power they have over men either, curves are magical and they attract boners like flies on shit or bees to pollen; we want to get it in there like we want water, food, or shelter. And most of the owners of those boners don’t quite know how to get it in there without either being too aggressive and creepy, or totally non-threatening and being seen as a completely un-sexual “friend.” That’s just the way it is.
If you don’t want to be treated like whore, stop dressing like one.
Yea man you sure are a shithead.Just wait your “old “days are gonna come.No one will give you a moments attention except and I add just maybe……another “old” person.Full of yourself indeed “I Owner”.
If I were to write an I, Anonymous it would be about people needing to get over themselves, and you my friend would be the main item. If you have such a problem with the way that people view you, then maybe you should rethink what you wear in public. I understand that it’s summer, and I also walk around in some pretty skimpy clothes, but you know what I do when old men lear at my breasts? i get over it. I say to myself “Apparently I look pretty nice in this outfit.” If you don’t want people to compliment you on your tan, then don’t slather on tanning oil and sit out in your bikini trying to get one. If you don’t want people to compliment your blouse, then wear an ugly one, or maybe try wearing a bra. Isn’t the reason that you make yourself appear in such a way to get attention? Seriously, get over yourself and stop being so picky. I hate to break it to you, but your shit DOES stink, and you honestly don’t sound worth buying a drink for.
i feel your pain anon,
it’s the same thing with me. just because i am an older guy with my shit together, that does not give you young girls the right to harass me in public. seems like everyday, it’s “hey how are you doing today?” from the clerk at the store, or the barista saying, “so, big plans for the weekend?” enough with the harassment ladies!
Maybe all of you “gentlemen” should stop calling her a slut, you don’t know her. The creep did not even ask to sit down, I don’t know of any situation when that’s appropriate. Leering at her and making suggestive comments means he is a creep. All of you whiny men getting offended by this girl need to realize that it is scary when men are this aggressive and naive. You men don’t know what it’s like to be a girl and even though it is true that not all men are potential rapists, doesn’t mean we women know that. When a guy is this aggressive, even if he wasn’t old, it’s still a red flag. Stop acting all defensive and insecure. If you want to date a girl that could be your daughter, there is something wrong with you, not the girl rejecting you. She does sound a little stuck up, but that doesn’t make a difference.
Men, y’all need to relax and chill out. If I were a woman, I’d be pretty freaked out by some of the almost violent comments on this thread. Heck, I’m freaked out as it is. On the other hand, some of the women are positively ageist and sexist in their comments. Here’s a suggestion — how about everyone learn some fundamental manners, including using the words “Hello,” “How are you?” and “Do you mind if I sit here?” And how about taking “no” graciously? And learn how to freakin’ joke a little with your fellow man or woman. No one is guaranteed amorous attention from anyone, it’s something you earn by your behavior. No wonder so many people in Portland are frustrated, if this thread is any indication. Between sleazy guys making oily comments and needlessly cruel gals berating lonely old men, it’s a wonder anybody has a peaceful cup of joe in this town. It’s not that hard being polite and friendly and respectful, really. Just try it once, you’ll be surprised at how people react. Most women like it when you show genuine interest in them, not when you automatically take offense at the littlest slight as if you’re entitled to their attention. And not every guy who fumbles when he flirts is a jerk, he may not be your type, but you don’t have to make him feel like he’s worthless just because he made a mistake. A lot of guys, including decent ones, can lose their confidence if they keep striking out, so cut ’em some slack even if you find them a bit awkward and off-putting. And a lot of women have been victimized by violent men, so it pays to not act like another one of them and be aware that many women are scared of men coming on too strongly. Okay, back to flirting.
TageSavage, demondog, The Showstopper, joeyturtle, PDXWahine, graham & luckybulldog13PDX:
It takes a lot of guts to stand up for your convictions, but never more so than these days, during the age of the internet, where off-hand comments can really linger, where anything you write online can be recorded for posterity. It’s truly remarkable the way that the internet allows us to catalogue people’s opinions, and form a circumstantial, subjective analysis of their personality. Circumstantial and un-contextualized as this method of personality research may be, it’s freely given information, and more and more prospective employers are finding it beneficial in screening candidates. Not just employers – but schools, landlords, even girlfriends and boyfriends! All that stuff, at the fingertips of any savvy googler.
So, you must really be ready to put your full, considered theoretical, ideological and moral support behind your misogynistic rape culture stand-by: “She was asking for it.” You really have to believe strongly in a line of thinking that trivializes and apologizes for a permissive attitude towards the degradation of women, to put that on the internet, attached to a screen name, attached to a profile, attached, for posterity, to you.
Young women should not have to compromise their sexuality and their sexual agenda out of fear of harassment. On the same thread castigating insensitivity to old age, people are also demanding that young girls wear more clothes, deny their bodies’ peak sexual potency, out of fear that they should be seen as “asking for it” in their “whore’s uniforms.” Girls should not have to wear more clothes than they want to – after all, we still want attract our sexual peers.
In this thread, people like TageSavage, demondog, The showstopper, graham, luckybulldog13pdx, PDXwahine & joeyturtle ask that women blame themselves for suffering through lewd or unwanted attention. Other people have condemned the type of sexual agency that stands behind saying “I don’t want this,” as “stuck up” or “being full of yourself.” The right to choose – to select OR reject – your sexual partners belongs to everyone. Some people even suggested that it is a woman’s duty to submit to this attention and suck it up because that guy was old and someday they’ll be old too… and once you’re old you’ve earned the right to…? Harass other people in turn? Once you’ve earned your long-in-the-tooth merit badge?
And on the same thread, people are berating girls for not sticking up for themselves, saying what they mean, and being assertive?
Even in a city that’s constantly touted as being liberal, open minded and forward thinking, the evidence that we are way behind on our sexual education is right there when your scratch the surface. Personally, I wish my rural red state health class had spent a little less time watching “Prefontaine” and a little more time talking about sexual agency, so the next time a guy shouts at a girl on the street she would do more than just giggle and button up her sweater.
Let me CLARIFY! Noone asks to be raped (unless it’s some weird BSDM thing). Just because I like tits and ass, and will do anything to get at it, doesn’t mean I do it w/o consent. So your straw woman argument about “misogynistic rape culture” is fail.
“Young women should not have to compromise their sexuality and their sexual agenda out of fear of harassment.”
I have to compromise my sexuality everyday FOR MANY REASONS. Lord, I wish I could jerk off ANYWHERE, but in this society it just ain’t kosher. But that’s life.
“…people are also demanding that young girls wear more clothes, deny their bodies’ peak sexual potency, out of fear that they should be seen as “asking for it” in their ‘whore’s uniforms.'”
And people are demanding men not to talk to women, deny their biological urge AND their peak sexual potency, out of shame that they should be seen as “potential rapist” and “creepy.”
And this idea of “harassment”? Nothing that this guy did in the letter qualifies as “harassment.” As far as I could tell, he was trying to start up a conversation. He probably did want to get in her pants, she didn’t like that, and here we are.
The point is, it’s a two-way street. I wanna talk to you, you don’t wanna talk to me. You’re a sexual object, I’m a potential rapist. You’re “full of yourself”, I’m “creepy.” You call it “misogynistic rape culture” I call it “misandrist women’s studies entitlement.” If she can degrade (“a grizzled, syphilitic jackal”), I can degrade. Ain’t noone gunna point the finger at me w/o good reason but I can almost certainly call you out on your hypocrisy.
hehehe! Personally, I think this chick with her mating uniform on is just pissed because the only attention she got was from the old geezer and not the hot studs she hoped to find for whatever reason. The real definition for sexual harrassment is getting attention from someone you don’t think is good enough for you.
wow. i’m so shocked by all the misogony here! really, i am so shocked!
first of all, not every woman is capable of saying no, or asking someone to leave. sure, it MIGHT have worked for her to talk about a boyfriend, it might not have worked. but that doesn’t mean she has the nerve to say anything. perhaps she has some traumatizing past that we don’t know about.
second, the girl can wear whatever the fuck she wants. its her body, if she wants to look good for herself, that is great. thats so great! it means shes accepting her body for what it is and showing it off because she likes it. that is hard to come by in a girls head in this day and age.
third, just because she dresses like that, does not make it okay to hit on her. her body is for her, not for you.
finally, why are we making all these assumptions that she is full of herself? some gross dude hits on her, and she mentions that shes pretty and suddenly she’s full of herself? wtf?! are girls supposed to hate their looks and not find themselves pretty?
what bullshit.
@tagesavage the difference is that we are still living in a male centric society. stop acting so oppressed. you’re not.
there is also a huge difference between a man resisting his urge to jerk off in public and a woman wanting to wear short shorts.
no one is asking men not to talk to women, women are just asking men to stop treated them exclusively as bodies created to serve them. i’m a fucking dyke and i still get calls from guys and it makes me so fucking uncomfortable. why is that okay? its obvious they are just shouting stupid things to try to fuck me, which is never going to happen because i am a proud gold star holder, but that is a different story. the point is that it makes me feel gross and violated. and there is a history of women being forced to feel gross and violated. and we don’t want to feel that way anymore. we want to take back our bodies and our sexuality and feel comfortable being who we are. its really not a hard concept.
You look like a fucking pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of hipsters, it will be your fault.
Harrypotter feels uncomfortable when a guy calls. Hmmmm, wonder if any girls get uncomfortable when she calls! Wonder who makes them more uncomfortable, the skeezy old guy or the dyke?!
Fuck off thx6902. Harrypotter has a excellent point. I’m a straight mid-twenties woman, and when a girl hits on my, it is a huge compliment. They do so in a friendly, nonaggressive way, and when I politely turn them down, they accept it with grace and a couple have become friends of mine. Men can be aggressive and childish in their responses to women not being interested. I turn them down and they call me one of these three things: lesbian, prude, or slut (strangely enough). Not all men do this, but the ones that are aggressive and doing annoying things like catcalls do. Get the fuck over yourselves, seriously. If you want to get laid, there are better ways.
Holy shit, this sure struck a cord!
@harrypotter, your comments are ON POINT. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. even if you shed some light on the subject for one person… it is worth it.
I do have to say the few times a woman has hit on me they’ve done it with class and grace…. like simply handing me a flower on the dance floor, telling me I’m beautiful, giving me her number and walking away. no pressure. no creepy feelings. just felt like an honest compliment and it made my fucking night. and that’s not to say some men aren’t capable of the same kind of class… but there seem to be plenty out there giving the good ones a bad name. as I’m sure there are some women out there doing the same to us… like the ones saying that we need to dress frumpier if we don’t want negative attention. yikes. way to set women back decades!
I feel sorry for this poor girl. Shes living in a imature stupid world that doesn’t pick up on her “subtle hints.” I’m sure she feels alone and misunderstood. She’s way too complex for me even. I would of not picked up the “parents” “grandparents” refference.
Wow, these comments are totally full of dumb. Good job I,Anon.
I particularly enjoy the women slandering other women for calling out I,Anon for her horribly ageist diatribe. Lulz and high-fives all round. Good job, team!
You’d be surprised how often even those of us who aren’t dressed that way get unwanted attention, and how creepy some guys are, even after we bluntly tell them multiple times to leave us alone.
I’m not sure I, Anonymous and I would ever get along in real life, but on principle, I’ve gotta stand up for a sister. No matter how you’re dressed, or how shallow or deep you are, no means no. If you don’t like the mixed-signals sent by politeness, stop portraying women as stuck-up b**ches when we’re blunt.
thanks everyone for supporting me!
also, @thx6902, i don’t aggressively go after girls. i don’t really go after girls in general. i have had three girlfriends who were sexually assaulted when too young to understand what that meant. one, my current girl, has grown into a sex positive, sex educator, while the others are still reeling with the after math. from her i’ve learned a lot about what is okay and what is not, what will strike a nerve and what will not. apparently you need someone like that in your life, too.
Sorry Anonymous – if you’re a CUNT to this “geezer”, than you’re probably at CUNT to most guys – unless, of course, they have something to offer you that will fulfill your CUNT needs. Seen it all to often – from my “young folk” days into my “Geezerhood”. Good luck, cause when you’re a geezer, thinking that you’re some sort of hot “Cougar”, young folks will treat you like the CUNT that you were to everybody else.
I totally agree with this Anon. If you don’t know a person and you just launch into a tirade of conversation, then you are being creepy.
Here are a few rules of thumb to avoid looking creepy.
One rule I learned during the 80s while living in pre-Juliani New York, it’s called “The Line Rule” and it goes like this,
If you’re in a line with someone or waiting at a bus stop with someone and a conversation occurs between you then you should know that it is not appropriate to try to continue the conversation after you get on the bus or after you get to the front of the check out line. You run the risk of looking stalkerish and this is the best way of getting maced in a Starbucks parking-lot or knifed at a subway terminal.
A second rule I learned more recently while living in Florida is the “rule of proportions” which states that your attractiveness is inversely proportional to the distance between the-person-you-are-attracted-to’s age and your age, that your attractiveness is directly proportional to the amount of money you make, and that it is directly proportional to your social skills.
This is why the guy came off so creepy, he wasn’t her age and he had no social skill, and he didn’t have even the small amount of money needed to buy the poor girl a drink.
Oh and “You have nice skin?!” Really? That’s creepy!
Might as well say, “Nice skin. I’m looking at your breasts,” or “Nice skin. I want to wear it.”
What a metard.
IN RELATED NEWS: ‘I Anonymous’ provokes a feverish fucking circle jerk of anonymous bitching and moaning over nothing. Nice. The old ‘circular firing squad’, right?
I mean 77 comments people?
Seventy-motherfucking-SEVEN????
78.
Ooops.
79.
Was I the only one who thought the title of this was “NEIL Young Sting”?
Of course…Neil IS getting up there, so she COULD have been talking about him.
hey, everyone above this comment is a total asshole
She’s not full of herself, she’s just admitting things, that every girl thinks when old men hit on them
And if she is pretty, then let her admit it
why does the only type of girls society approves of is the shy and awkward ones?
You people couldn’t handle a woman like this
Snagglepuss, maybe she should wear a burka. Would that make you feel better?