I think we're going for a Hat Trick here.

Fact #1: Some "crazy guy" on the internet gets morally outraged at naked people

Fact #2: Some "medicore-writer for an alt-weekly" gets morally outraged at the previous morally outraged "crazy guy".

Fact #3: Noted troll and and "angry-guy" get morally outraged at the previous "medicore-writer for an alt-weekly" for her lack of being funny or knowing how to bring about the LULZ.

If someone can get morally outraged at me, we'll just daisy chain this to the event horizon and we'll all implode like the end of 2001.

Jesus, Graham, why do you have to overanalyze everything? It offends my moral sensibilities to the core... THE CORE!

Oh snap! "Noted troll"/"angry guy" has been demoted to "mediocre-troll for and alt-weekly."

Even if he wanted me to be raped and had lots of interesting things to say about my grandparents, I gotta say that this guy was one of the highlights of my night. Someone get him a "Keep Portland Weird" bumpersticker ASAP.

Man, I'm glad I put that extra effort into learning how to feel comfortable around girls when I was still pubescent. This is perhaps the saddest piece of video I've seen in some time.

Oh, and it seems to me Smirk's tone falls closer to bemusement than outrage. But because I know her, I can vividly imagine how she'd relay this story in person, outside of trivia night. But chin up, Graham. That's just more moral outrage to share among the Chastity Crusader and yourself.

@Carl, who's doing the demoting around here? Was it you? I think that your reading comprehension skills might be a bit mediocre. Put down the bong for a couple of seconds and read things through before attempting to quote them incorrectly.

@Goodfella I'm going to assume that English isn't your first language. Because if it was, you'd realize that "crazy guy" was using the word "degenerate" as an adjective, not as a noun. Therefore the definition you were looking for is: "having fallen to an inferior or undesirable state, especially in mental or moral qualities". Thus making the state of being "degenerative" a qualitative one and letting us turn this into what essentially amounts to a theological debate from which we will learn that there are no gods and everything is relativisitic.

@tk. Thanks for the figurative "fist bump", I hope you hate this overanalyzing as much as the previous attempt.

@Carl, who's doing the demoting around here? Was it you? I think that your reading comprehension skills might be a bit mediocre. Put down the bong for a couple of seconds and read things through before attempting to quote them incorrectly.

@Goodfella I'm going to assume that English isn't your first language. Because if it was, you'd realize that "crazy guy" was using the word "degenerate" as an adjective, not as a noun. Therefore the definition you were looking for is: "having fallen to an inferior or undesirable state, especially in mental or moral qualities". Thus making the state of being "degenerative" a qualitative one and letting us turn this into what essentially amounts to a theological debate from which we will learn that there are no gods and everything is relativisitic.

@tk. Thanks for the figurative "fist bump", I hope you hate this overanalyzing as much as the previous attempt.

@Graham, maybe you should lay off the meth long enough to let your posts show up, so that you don't feel the need to double post.

I'm just saying...

@Matthew I'm insulted that you think I'm going Meth. If you would have bothered to ask, I would have told you that I'm snorting Adderall these days.

I am a high class fellow.

My sincerest apology, it was wrong of me to assume that just because you drink Budweiser* that you also have lousy taste in drugs.

*True story. It was after about 8 drinks that evening already and his taste buds were probably shot but still, if you are gonna be a high class fellow, you need to be a high class drunk.

Obviously, one drinks Coors, the Banquet Beer.

Jake,

The ride rules are "as bare as you dare!" so a lot of people just strip down to their skivvies. I was working coat check, though, and a couple of older guys did stroll into the party wearing nothing but Crocs.

That dude is funny.

I'm lolling my butt off. Can someone more techno-aurally inclined do a remix of Degenerate Scum Get Raped? (A la Bill O'Reilly "There's no words there!" remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2YDq6FkVE

@Graham I'll give you a fucking fistbump, bitch! Sarah showed this to me just after we all STUFFED OURSELVES on free tacos. (Koifusion can fuck me all night long.) I'll assure you that Mirk's mirth rings true and any accusation of outrage rings like the frantic knocking of a toddler, trapped in an oil drum twenty feet underground.

And don't you dare make fun of my bloated simile!

P.S. I'll be KJing at Chopsticks II tomorrow and Fri. If you happen to be in the neighborhood, stop by and say hi, mother fucker!

I think you're being too hard on this guy. It's just a communication issue. When he says, "Get raped." I think he's just trying to come on to the hot, naked bikers. He clearly likes a little rough trade. Can't fault him for that.

And the cute, polite volunteer can call me Sir, any day. Yum.

I happen to know the good gentleman who bravely stood up to the aptly labeled "degenerate scum" that evening. I'm not going to mention his name, but some of us like to call him "Mentious." Please allow me to address some of the ludicrous and low-brow slanders that have been directed his way:

"Fact #1: Turns out he has a weirdo celibacy website which includes such classic rants as 'Porn is Weapon Used By Jews Against Gentiles.'"

Celibacy is a legitimate and hallowed spiritual practice (it is my understanding that "Mentious," while I believe he considers himself to be a Christian, takes a lot of his spiritual inspiration from the Hindu tradition as well; both Hinduism and Christianity have long valued sexual restraint, as do nearly all other spiritual/religious traditions in human history). To deride celibacy as the exclusive province of "weirdo[es]" is simply a manner by which you mark yourself as an ill-informed dullard.

His remarks concerning pornography, and the Jewish role (and motivation for said role), are entirely correct. They may be unfashionable and tabu, but that isn't quite the same thing as their being wrong, now is it?

"Fact #2: The guy RUNS up to meet the ride, obviously aching to get a glimpse of the action before it passes him by so he can film it for his purely gentile porn stash."

You have provided no evidence what-so-ever that he "[ran] up to meet the ride." He has told me he merely strolled up to it, and I frankly doubt whether you have any knowledge of whether his statement is true or not. Since I know him to be an honorable man, and I know you to be degenerate scum, I think its clear whom I should believe.

"Mentious" has posted the video in question on You Tube, under the (appropriate) heading of "Education," as it is illustrative of the Stygian depths of moral depravity in which much of contemporary American urban culture presently wallows. It is not merely untrue (and frankly ridiculous, considering the amount of pornography freely available on the Internet, as I'm sure you are intimately aware) to suggest he made this video as part of an exercise in sexual titillation. Rather, it is a lie, being told by a viper who knows herself to be lying.

"Fact #3: As he's talking to the cute, polite volunteer, the Chastity Crusader clearly can't help but check out the kid's junk, panning the camera down and then whoops! back up again quickly."

He chronicled the fact that the degenerate in question was actually nude. I'm not sure how one documents a publicly nude event, without making an attempt to demonstrate to the viewer the extent of the moral perversity on display, as it were. Nor am I sure someone should even try to spare an audience such grim and repugnant details. What occurred in downtown Portland the other night was a repulsive event, and people need to know its true extent. In any event, the genitalia of the effeminate male in question was mercifully shrouded in shadow, so its pretty obvious you are not being sincere in your allegation, but again, are simply telling a lie which you consciously know to be a lie.

Okay, I'll bite.

"His remarks concerning pornography, and the Jewish role (and motivation for said role), are entirely correct. They may be unfashionable and tabu, but that isn't quite the same thing as their being wrong, now is it?"

How are they "entirely correct"? Having read the article now (which is an excerpt from a David Duke book, a man who of course has no agenda whatsoever) the only basis for proof is a couple of out-of-context quotes from a total of two people. Of all of the hundreds of people that have ever been involved in pornography, he finds two who happen to be Jewish and then makes the logical leap that the whole industry is a vast conspiracy created just to debase the moral fiber of the country. How does that follow? It's a deluded, self-important, paranoid logic.

Anyhow, depictions of erotic acts have existed for thousands of years, often with specific religious and spiritual meanings from the Asian religions of Hinduism, Buddhism, Shinto and Taoism to the Greeks and the Romans (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_er…). The modern view of erotic depictions as something which should be hidden from view comes from the Victorian era, which also gave us sewers and child labor.

LULZ AHOY! Maybe I was wrong, maybe smirk put the right bait on the line to get some LULZ up in this bitch.

@tk. Please don't denigrate sewers. All of our poo-poo and pee-pee needs to go somewhere and I aint lugging around no chamber pot.

@k o'k Debating the difference between running and strolling to the ride with a quick segue into an ad hominem attack; keep it classy.

Anyone who links to an article from stormfront.org pretty much doesn't have a leg to stand on in a debate. The fact that said article references material written by David Duke just amplifies that. Plus, after reading through the comment section on Youtube, this "Mentious" guy is quite clearly at least a low-level white supremacist (note his references to the "charitable" way in which Americans have treated natives and the "noble whites" who ended slavery). All of this adds up to one certified nutjob.

WTF Smirk I broke this whole thing yesterday in the comments to your "Bikes aren't for Riding! They're for FLIRTING!! post -

http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/Blogto…

and get no credit????
Remind me to put you in a head lock at the next Trivia Night!!!!

Also to K O' Keefe and "Mentious" - if your God didn't want us to be naked than why are we made in "HIS" image which would appear to be FUCKING NAKED!!!!!
Also, your Zionist Porn conspiracy is absolutely hilarious...

Then I reread it and realize you did thank me. Now I'm worse than Graham. Head lock reascended.

FUCK YEAH! **pumping fist into**

I am no longer the worst! Abusive is worse than me now! WOO-HOO!

@Graham: Just trying to be equitable to the Victorians.

Head lock now engaged for Graham....

@Kevin_O'Keeffe

Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

...and get a shave.

"Having read the article now (which is an excerpt from a David Duke book, a man who of course has no agenda whatsoever)"

Perhaps you have to have a brain swarming with HIV to understand what it means to be able to define political activists with whom you disagree as "ha[ving] no agenda whatsoever." David Duke is a great American. The fact some random gaggle of loathsome homosexuals have no loyalty to their people and their civilization, and are thus hostile to those who do, comes as no surprise, however.

"Of all of the hundreds of people that have ever been involved in pornography, he finds two who happen to be Jewish"

He could have easily listed one-hundred more, as you're presumably aware. The porn "industry" has about the same degree of Jewish influence as does the dominant media generally. And you all have a pretty good idea to just what extent THAT is, even if you are a pack of miserable cowards who are too frightened to admit it, and too degenerate to care who controls the media. Just as long as you can watch double penetration videos on the Internet, and read inane celebrity worship magazines featuring "articles" that tell you what consumerist bullshit to waste your money on, you're as happy as pigs in shit.

"depictions of erotic acts have existed for thousands of years, often with specific religious and spiritual meanings from the Asian religions of Hinduism, Buddhism, Shinto and Taoism to the Greeks and the Romans"

Hmmm, so either you sincerely can't discern any difference between classical erotic art, and contemporary hard-core pornography, or you are lying. I wonder which is worse?

Funniest comment thread ever.

Quick, someone sign that guy up as a writer for the Cobert Report.

Crazy Man is crazier than originally believed

@k o'k "David Duke is a great American" Please back this up with facts.

Also: please back this up facts: "The porn 'industry' has about the same degree of Jewish influence as does the dominant media generally"

So, you come in here to defend against slander and then you hurl a bunch of ad hominem attacks my way? Not very nice. But for the record, I don't have an HIV-addled brain, I don't follow the porn industry or its demographics, but I think I've got a good handle on the difference between classic eroticism and modern porn. Thanks, though!

Mentious does not speak for the white racist community.

He is just a crackpot who has latched on to the white struggle to further his crackpot theories.

I don't understand Kevin and (De)Mentious's (ha!) implication that riding a bike unclothed at a naked bike riding event has tons to do with pornography. Sure, everyone's a degenerate (big whoop), and both feature naked people, but they have way different purposes. Moving on...

I think it's annoying how these two do not see how they themselves are lying when they claim to be appalled by such behavior. Not to psychologize them too much, but their education campaign is clearly a crash course in self-flagellation. This world of "hostile homosexuals" must be a slippery place.

Also, the internet is really rad.

This is the best thing ever. The best part of the whole thing is that when you are around that much nudity it becomes pretty secondary to everything else.

I cannot believe people this irrational are capable of holding their molecules together. Shouldn't they just disintegrate.

"wouldn't have had the balls to do what you did Julian, I would have chickened out. Your a brave man. "

From the youtube comments. Funny that @Kevin_O'Keeffe was so concerned as to call him "Mentious" which sounds like a supervillian name

Behold the amazing "Trollio"!

LULZ, Julian Lee being racist and crazy in our local paper: http://blog.oregonlive.com/myoregon/2009/0…

LULZ^2, Julian Lee being made fun of for being a crazy old man. And it's being done on a White Nationalism message board: http://stumbleinn.net/forum/showthread.php…

"Hmmm, so either you sincerely can't discern any difference between classical erotic art, and contemporary hard-core pornography"

I can. More importantly, I can take that information and apply it to the events of Saturday night. And naked bicyclist have a lot more in common with classical erotic art than pornography. If you look at say, art of Classical Greek athletes, the only reason a naked person on a bicycle wouldn't fit right in is because the bicycle hadn't been invested yet. Now the video your friend made, (complete with close up shot, bad camera angles, and poor lighting,) resembles porn in many ways, but I expect that that might have more to do with your friend learning how to make a video from watching porn himself, not because the event itself was...

Also, why does a "celibate" person, who comes upon some naked people immediately scream "get raped" at them? I mean, I can understand advocating violence against your enemies, (it doesn't generally work then the enemy is an idea, but that hasn't stopped anyone in the past,) but it seems like a truly celibate person would advocate a different type of violence than rape, since rape is a form of sex, which I thought was what celibate people are opposed to.

@tk: The Romans invented the sewers. They also invented separate drinking water sources than the river you dump your sewage in, (which was an issue the Victorians never exactly mastered.) That leaves the Victorians with the not liking naked people (it is cold in England so I can understand them thinking naked people are weird,) and the child labor thingees.

I'm with WP4WP.
Mentious is a crackpot.
Its ok to get naked AND celebrate pre-Judeo-Xian white heritage.

"LULZ, Julian Lee being racist and crazy in our local paper: http://blog.oregonlive.com/myoregon/2009/0…"

His remarks at that site are neither "racist," nor "crazy." I live in California, and I can assure you, a LOT of nonWhite people down here do HATE White people, and that naturally makes it unpleasant to be around them. All Mr. Lee is doing is pointing out that fact, as well as the hypocrisy innate to the premise that "diversity" means reducing ideally both the total number of White people in any given community, as well as their portion of the total population in any given area. If people truly believed in "diversity," they'd want there to be some nearly all-White areas, just as they seem to love nearly all-Black and all-Hispanic areas. But the "diversity" mongers are really just anti-White racial imperialists, and self-hating Whites who have been persuaded through dominant media & public school indoctrination, that betraying and disparaging their own people is some sort of virtue. You don't see the other races doing that, and the "diversity" enthusiasts surely don't expect it of them. There can only be "too many Whites." There can NEVER be "too many Blacks," "too many Mexicans," "too many Chinese," etc.

"LULZ^2, Julian Lee being made fun of for being a crazy old man. And it's being done on a White Nationalism message board: http://stumbleinn.net/forum/showthread.php…"

The Stumble Inn is not a White Nationalism message board (the chief Admin is actually a Native American). It has posters who are anti-racists, and is essentially just a free speech forum. And one which is primarily geared towards scatological humour, bizarre Internet memes, "babe threads," and the like; the majority of the posts do not contain any serious political content (but unlike most boards, you don't get banned for having unfashionable views, so people with such views do tend to congregate there). I post there myself, as it so happens, although I do most of my public posting at The Phora, another board which is essentially free speech (NOT White Nationalist) in orientation, but which focuses on a generally more serious tone with regard to discussion of the socio-political, philosophic, scientific, and spiritual issues of the day. http://www.ThePhora.net

"From the youtube comments. Funny that @Kevin_O'Keeffe was so concerned as to call him "Mentious" which sounds like a supervillian name"

It very obviously would have been rude of me to reveal his real name on a public forum of this nature, hence I used his handle from the message board where I first made his acquaintance. But then, any person with an even nodding acquaintance with even the most rudimentary concepts of civilized behaviour would scarcely need that pointed out to him, alas.

"@k o'k 'David Duke is a great American' Please back this up with facts."

Are you a child? Its is obviously my opinion that David Duke is a great American. I can't PROVE he is a great American. I can't PROVE that all, or any, of the four late gentlemen on Mt. Rushmore were great Americans, either. It is a subjective determination.

"Is it okay if I like latkes?"

Hell, EVERYONE likes latkes.* I like tacos too (the real kind, made with corn tortillas, lots of cilantro & diced onion, and ideally lengua ie., beef tongue), but that doesn't mean I have to support Mexican colonization of the Pacific Coast of the United States, either. The disproportionate level of Jewish influence has been an unmitigated disaster for the United States, Canada, Britain, and Germany, since 1945. But I still eat halva and falafel.**


*"Potato pancakes," as we call them in English.

**Not nearly as explicitly Jewish as "latkes," but my point should never-the-less be clear.

uhhhhh

I was going to do a point by point dismissing of o'queefs attempts at relevancy... but I think Will kind of nailed his ignorant hate speech to the wall with the great quote of "uhhhh"

Let's just move on and forget this ever happened. My apologizies for anything I did to further this conversation.

"ignorant hate speech"

Objectively, its neither "ignorant," nor "hate speech," but merely speech with which you disagree. I may be a lot of things, but uneducated isn't one of them (and that's what "ignorant" actually means). "Hate speech" has no objective definition.

Mentious is a good white man

it's true, I was jewish for a day.

reverend phil
bicycle pornographer
http://BikeSmut.com

hey phil! hello from france !

i read all your stories,and you are doing for the cycling community in your country,respect !
i'd love to meet you,i make a documentary about sustainable transportation,progressive people,organic farmers and hippies and yuppies.
this is my first experience with a HD camcorder and i ll really appreciate if i can meet you.
I am not a journalist,i make my own story with no one to tell me about... ;)
everybody is welcome to contact me
Email : huynh.stanley@wanadoo.fr

i am in portland july the 1st until september 28th.

is this some strange twisted nipple fate?

I was promised a shot of the attractive guy's junk. Couldn't they have gotten a better lighting guy?